EVE General Discussion

Usually because of any of the following:
-I am aware of what the ship is capable of in a general sense. For instance, not a good idea to take on a vaga without my own speed and tracking to hit him in the first place. Or don't take a curse in an active tanked ship.
-Piloting skills. More just self doubt here. I don't PVP often enough to really consider myself good at it. I'll inevitably do something stupid like forget to overheat or burn out my guns, or let my transversal go low enough that I get vollied hard.
-Fitting. Maybe I'm PVE fit at the time, or I don't know that my ASB can last. This one really bleeds into the pilot skill thing though.
-Paranoia. He's not actually gonna do a 1v1.

SP is not a problem. I'm at 94 mill and have Mastery 3 on nearly every sub cap, the exceptions being CSes as I'm working on my gang link spec skills atm :P I can use all T2 guns of all sizes and types and the same for missiles. I have maxed out cap and fitting skills (except maybe fuel conservation and shield upgrades). I can fly all the T2 ships besides most of the caldari, the gallente BSes and non-amarrian transport ships. Can fly logi, have logi 5, have armor, shield and cap transfer skills at 5, can fly all 4 dreads and 2 of 4 races' carrier. Aside from training the capital gun and tanking skills higher I can pretty much do w/e I want xD

The fights you want, you don't get.

The fights you get.... you don't want.

You're proving what I mentioned with the way you reply here.

If you want people to play with you, it's always worth pretending to be likeable for a bit.

Well whoever you are and however you think you know me, i sure seemed to have left an impression. Ultimately however, this is not a game of hopscotch on a sidewalk. Being nice is a requirement for being in a fleet, it is not a requirement to get people to undock and shoot you in the face.


I mean... come on.... How can you expect people to buy that?

Well thx for actually posting and talking to me in this thread



All I can really says is that if you like something then it's worth practicing. If you practice it you will might get better at it, and when you are better at it you might have more motivation to do it.


Referring to your Vagabond analogy, I'll take on a Vagbond any day in a nanod hurricane and win 10/10. Cheap is awesome and you don't care if you lose it.

True. But you don't need to force undocks on Sisi, or engage in trolling/smack to get a fight. Just undock and blow them away if you're so good. Sounds to me like you trolled them for a bit, they decided you were an arse, and then ignored you just to wind you up. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Happens in FW systems all the time.

Roaming pirate fleets will engage most targets, Galmil and Calmil pilots will often fight, die, go reship and jump back into a fight. I don't fly in Amarr/Min FW systems often, but when I have been there, it always seems easy to find a fight too.

There are plenty of solo fights to be had, small gang fights and the meta seems to be moving more towards Cruisers at the moment, so fights are becoming a bit more interesting than the bash, crash, boom of frigate fights.

Yeah sure. Outside nullsec (from your original response), lowsec has plenty of fighting going on.

I dunno about that. The only place I ever see it is around Hek. Go out toward GW in Metro and there's a whole lot of empty low sec.

Is this not the logical conclusion of a sandbox game? Everything in a world like EVE is a calculated risk. Unless the act of engaging in combat (win or lose) is considered reward enough in itself, and let's face it after a while even the most ardent pvp'er tires of simply engaging targets after a while - we want the rush of victory, then there has to be some kind of ulterior motive encouraging the fight. Even then; however, you're just talking about a solo battle, which rarely happens.

So consider the most common scenario. Guy is flying about looking for amusement with some mates, runs into some number of other players. Engagement only happens if the side that's likely to lose can't run or if the odds look even. Mostly the odds don't look even. Some guy lights a cyno, one fleet is clearly an order of magnitude more valuable, one has 2x the logi support, etc. etc.

Ultimately I think the game for most players, even the elite pvp crowd, is to be the winner in any engagement they need to make. So for the sov guys it's grinding up their super count. For the FW folks its stacking logi and taking systems to grow rich and full of fair-weather fleet members. For lowsec independents it's controlling the lucrative L5 hubs. In Wspace it's farming sleepers hard and hiding in POS until a massive eviction fleet comes calling.

TL;DR: I look at EVE like a game of chess (cliché as that may sound) and don't expect the pvp content to flow like an fps. If you want fair fights, they'll be hard to come by. If you want kills, you'll have to out-think your opponent. Slapping them across the face with your glove and calling them to a duel isn't likely to accomplish anything. Infiltrate his corp or circle of friends, rob him, gank him, and post all the tears for our amusement (last bit is optional, but highly recommended). That's how you get your guaranteed fights.