Player Features and Ideas Discussion

English is not my main language.

If i'm right, when a player lost connection to the game, modules shut down, drones are scooped into ship, and the ship warp out far away. The Bastion module is currently intended to continue cycling even after a disconnection. This will prevent your vessel from emergency warping to safety.
Why it doesn't stop at the disconnection? To avoid abusive uses to end the bastion mode before the 1min couldown.

But when a player lost his connection during an exploration site (or any other situation) and had his bastion module active, even without being scrambled, the ship will probably be destroyed easely by NPC because all hardeners are OFF and the bastion cycle prevents the warp off.

So here is a suggestion:
when a player loses his connection while beeing in bastion mode, set all modules ON (except propulsion module) and when bastion cycle ends, do as usual (all modules OFF and warp out).
The same thing can be applied to the siege module and triage module.

This suggestion is to make working the emergency warping in any situation in a fair way.


If you agree or don't agree, say why.

It's been brought up several times before, even before day 1 with the bastion module. As you noted, the Marauder class is not the only ship class that has this issue with regards to the "e-warping" mechanic (and there are good reasons why). That said, and considering this issue can be caused by a technical problem, I'm sure other players wouldn't be against reworking the mechanic to allow Marauders to e-warp at the end of cycle as long as and only if other ships (carriers, dreads, cyno boats, etc.) that are in the same "boat" are permitted to e-warp as well.

In short, I'd be fine with e-warps for Marauders, but it has to be done the right way and include all other ships with a similar issue with e-warping.

How? For marauders and capitals there is a pretty big align time that provides plenty of time to re tackle from rats and players. The biggest problem is that my catgut could technically be in space until downtime because of Aggro and a single rat.

It would only be abused if someone didn't make the obvious fixes to prevent abuse. Because its a very simple mechanic. That requires a very simple change.

Why should any ship not have a working ewarp function? It's unnecessary to have it work this way. If I lose my ship in a fight because of disconnect I'm not gonna cry about it (maybe a little, in the inside) but having my ship stay in space indefinitely because if counteracting mechanics is not how it should work.

Im not saying I necessarily agree with how it is, hell, I love bastion. Its just that with the current trend of CCP decisions, theyll just say "you knew the risks" to avoid putting development time on it

It's not like you will end cycle and go straight into warp. We're not talking about ending the cycle early and e-warping the ship, we're talking about turning the module red when the pilot disconnects and having the ship e-warp when the cycle ends. The ship would still have to align and get up to speed just like always. Bastion/Siege/Triage only make you e-war immune while they are active. As soon as you see the ship starting to move you know it is not e-war immune anymore, point it for exactly the same effect a point has on any ship.

In no case can you prevent a HIC super point either just in case you're not confident in your ability to tackle a battleship or cap you have pre-locked before it can finish and entire alignment.

You CAN order your ship to warp while you are in bastion/siege/triage, not that it will stop your ship from telling you exactly where to shove that order.

I struggle to see how you could abuse this. Your aggression flaggings would prevent your ship from disappearing while tackled, has been this way since Crucible. Online or offline the time it would take to warp any ship coming out of an e-war immune mode is identical.

no it makes perfectly sense, and this is not the first thread about it. If they would make it so as OP wants and e-warp the ship despite that its in bastion mode, people can unplug the network cable on their PC when a hostile comes in system and that way escape from combat while they cant warp because of the bastion mode.

not being able to warp off is a trade off for very high bonus that the bastion module provides, it should NOT be overruled by a DC this problem isnt new carriers in triage, dreads in siege, titans after using doomsday rorqual in industry mode and every ship with a cyno has the same issue.

once again it is a TRADE OFF for provided bonuses

+1
I see no compelling reason that ships shouldn't ewarp at the end of the bastion cycle (not during the middle of it).

E-warp is simple it does an attempt to warp off when disconnected, if it cant warp it won`t make a second attempt that is how it works. this rule is how it works and every ship that can be prevented from warp suffers from this. My point stands and remains valid.

I do have a solution though, fly another ship or a marauder without bastion module. there solved.