Warfare & Tactics

I don't have a lot of experience with the cerb, but in my experiences, the drake sacrifices a little dps for a lot less isk and a lot more EHP. And a cerb could alpha a strike a lightly tanked frigate, but not a BC.

The truth is, if you decloak a second ship, or leave and return in non-blingy ship, they are much less likely to engage you. Its the shinies they want!

Widow or Falcon would be my choice of Caldari ships.

Just make sure you aren't anywhere near the warp in spot and are at least soft aligned. I'd probably nano and tackle with the Falcon with CNR aligned and spitting cruise missiles.



If he does it properly he will just warp off if a bunch of your friends land on grid.

Do you not know what a Falcon is?

Wow, the irony in this is off the charts.




There are several responses to this that seem appropriate, so I thought I would toss out a few:

1. This character is in an NPC Corp. Now, to your credit, I did not specifically state that this is not the character that I run missions with. The character that I do mission with is in a player corp. Other posters figured it out. They even posted about it. How did you miss it? When I get my tactic figured out and the right ship combination, I’ll send you a PM with my mission runners name and location. How about that?

2. You extra hardcore pro elite (whatever) PVP’rs whine when carebear mission runners don’t take YOUR bait. You whine when we don’t fight back. You now whine when one of them looks for ways to actually engage you without the battle being completely in your favor. Why is that? My best guess is that you are concerned about losing a fight. Do you think that’s accurate?

3. You are (apparently) under the impression that I would crumple to the ground if I lost the engagement. Guess what, I am actively looking for a way to add PVP to MY PVE experience. I want to at least EVEN the odds though. Maybe I lose, maybe I win. Either way it will be fun, no?

So, in conclusion, come get some*…

*Soon. I'll let you know when I am ready

**edited to remove some rudeness on my part. Sorry about that. it's just a game.

You obviously have never heard of ECCM or Projected ECCM? Falcons are not an I WIN Button or the Auto-GTFO safety net you think it is. Try harder.



This coming from the much Experienced player that you are, coupled with the stuck in a box tinker boy above with "Falcon Fever," makes me laugh.



1.) I'll give you this one. Given I wrote this post at work, I neglected to research this posting toon of yours... I know, shame on me. As for the invite, please do!

2.) You've completely displaced this comment as I never stated I was a Ninja looter. If you re-read, you'll see I pointed out a well known one for you. You also incorrectly viewed my knowledge as a whine. Prey-tell, where exactly is a whine In what I stated above? I merely tried to enlighten you that those you are attempting to Bait/hunt are well prepared and the Odds, given with just you and you're alt and no other corpies, will have much to overcome and stand to lose. Either case, with your statement, while true to some if not most PvPers with having a more Even fight, it's not the case with me... I've fought many battles outnumbered and outgunned and have overcome them. I'm actually in complete favor of you trying to make a stand... That's exactly what Eve needs more of.

3.) Again with the displacement of words... I merely said you would stand to lose. I never insinuated that you would cry tears or Rage/quit, etc. PvP is fun win or lose... Having said that, whenever you feel ready, message me... I give you some fun.
Though, I'm apt to just out-right Dec you instead of pussy-footing around with Ninja-looting.


P.S. What is up with the stupid Quote limitations?

Let me add since you think the CNR+Falcon is too much for one ship to handle. A well skilled Falcon Pilot can hit 14-15 Jam strength... more with boosters. ECCM Stacks... pretty much doubles sensor strength. Standard Cruiser 15-20 Sensor strength, now become 30-40. A Logi can easily equip ECCM & Projected ECCM for me. A wise pilot, knowing there's Corp Aggro involved, knows how many are in system, maybe does a little research on his target before committing, may see a pattern and has both ready(Seeing a trend in ECM warfare) my SS is 60-80. Granted, obviously not everyone does this, most are haphazard, but at this point I'm speaking if i were the Looter. It's all a matter of distance and speed... sure he could get away, but more importantly... I know the CNR's not going to take me down and I'll force that Falcon off the field if not kill it.

Trap or not, that duo can easily be over come by a competent pilot/group. Indeed he could succeed over the lesser.

To the OP.

Does it really happen often that some1 LOOT's ur mission ship wreck's?
I, myself, had one time a Ninja SALVAGER on the wrecks from a mission of me.

I thought Ninja's do Salvage others wrecks but don't loot to prevent theirselves from getting red to the player their are salvaging wrecks from.

You think it's worth to have a second account watching ur missioning account doing nothing 99,99% of the time?

So much troll effort.

Shooting with your CNR is at best pointless; he'll be expecting to either warp out or lose the ship. At worst, your CNR will explode...so don't try that.

Having an alt/friend in the same player corp, in a ship you don't mind him losing if things go badly, is a good solution. I wouldn't use a cloak due to a reactivation delay. For most purposes I'd recommend an interceptor, maybe a taranis...but some look to salvage in their gankship (usually something small and weak-looking, like an arbitrator) which will then receive RR.


I think a vagabond or cynabal would be the best option here.




Not possible unless the OP takes from his can. The best the attacker can do is get RR.

Typical Ninja looter is in a destroyer or a frigate, A mission fit Maelstrom could probably alpha it. That said the problem with pvping in a mission ship is of course the lack of a point so maybe an interceptor would be a good idea