EVE Fiction

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I am of the belief that the groups that initially settled in New Eden were very fractured and coming from widely different solar systems that had already been colonized before the discovery if the wormhole to New Eden. As example, we got the Gallente descending from inhabitants of Tau Ceti and the Amarr coming from the planet of Soekheviti. Both had been settled there for thousand of years and likely did not regard themselves as Terrans. I therefore dismiss the idea of Terrans as some unified group that all of the empires are descending from.

In fact, we are properly in a state right now were the population of New Eden is much less fractured than when the EVE Gate was open, due to a lot of minor factions perishing during the dark times after the gates closure and the survivors being forced to co-operate. Later, the organization into four major empires has brought the majority of people of New Eden even further together.

True, Wyke. But as there does not appear to have been some unifying element for a lot of things, religion included, since "now" (as in Earth 2011 AD) and the far future of EVE, one must expect that any "proto" elements dating back to the EVE Gates closure must come from something even before our current (2011) time. Not saying they do not exist, but we are not talking sci-fi then; we are talking real ancient Earth history.

Your premises reside on the bold assumption that what you percieve as Earth history conforms to the prehistory of Eve, which is a blank mountain upon which a few hasty scribbles have been made. The most obvious is the schism that occured between the Unified Catholic Church and the Conformists, the birth of the Amarr Empire to come.

The Sleeper enclaves recognize two somehow fundamentally different technologies, Terran and Talocan. Not Yan Jung, who are also known to have migrated through the eve gate, nor Conformist, which should also be a viable nomenclature. What was brought through the gate was Terran technology, the culmination of which was likely the Eve Gate itself..

A unified central authority is the only thing that would have allowed such diverse, open colonization.. The creation of the gates themselves was likely a concerted effort, most especially if it was the fading hope of humanity.. The Milky Way is probably in the post mortem throes of heat death..

There was no such thing as "free territory" to the Terrans, the many diverse breeds of them. They were Terraforming planets on this side of the gate.

There are many valid arguments for a central authority of the Terrans. Even if it was a mediating body like Concord.

And in closing, it was supposed to be an in character fiction piece, guess I shoulda noted that in the heading..

P.S. The Conformists were driven off Soekhiviti early on, no further mention of where they reside, they could have become a migrant culture..

The Conformists who entered the Eve Gate considered themselves Amarrians (Atharvan) or Fire Priests of a Zoroastrian type Religion.

Surely we'd be atheists in the future? Can't imagine any advanced race clinging to religious beliefs.

Religion can be many things to different groups, the guiding principle for those who embrace the Theosophist movement is; "There is no Religion higher than Truth".

In the Zoroastrian faith, we have this; "Holiness (Asha) is the best of all good.
It is also happiness. Happy [is] the man who is holy with perfect holiness!"

Christ told those who wished to understand him to question everything your senses and your innermost thoughts reveal to you. There are more senses than most scientists give credit for, because they haven't yet quantified them. Just because you can't see the wind, doesn't mean it isn't there.

If a man is holding you at gunpoint, ready to shoot you for your wallet, and he has a flash of conscience, revelation, or simply following his heart, he could be said to be listening to God, in which case, God has affected real change in the world, whether you believe in him or not. As a "factor" by which we can see "cause and effect", God is very real.

Addressing only a portion of the topic (the part about ties to Terran ancestors)....
It seems that Terran cultural influence carried over fairly strongly into the four races' cultures. Some evidence:

-In the novel EVE: The Empyrean Age, an ordinary Caldari Navy pilot is able to read an inscription on an ancient Terran structure outside the EVE Gate. (It is something very mundane-- the name of joint industrial development project, if believe).

-Several Caldari symbols found in the official canon use stylized Roman alphabet characters. The characters still seem to represent the same phonetic sounds as in current times (2011 C.E.). Examples (from another thread)-- Caldari State symbol “C”; Nugeoeihuvi corp symbol “NOH”

-Many ships of all races are named after Terran animals, items and mythological creatures/characters. Examples:

• Wolf, Jaguar, Cheetah, Ibis, Condor, Heron, Kestrel, Osprey, Merlin, Raven, Scorpion, Panther, Hyena, Buzzard, Rook, Falcon, Badger, Crane
Broadsword, Rapier, Sabre, Scimitar, Claymore
Hyperion, Myrmidon, Harpy, Cerberus, Ares, Phobos, Deimos, Proteus, Cerberus, Talos, Thanatos, Charon, Chimera, Manticore, Basilisk, Wyvern, Phoenix, Paladin, Tristan, Loki, Ragnarok, Abaddon, Ark, Leviathan, Ishtar, Rokh, Kitsune, Tengu

Are the ships actually named after ancient Terran animals? Or are they named after similar animals the settlers found in New Eden? For example, did the early Caldari find a small predatory flying animal and call it a “kestrel” after the Terran creature? And a similar one that preys on water creatures, so that they called it an “osprey”? Whether they’re named after ancient Terran animals or analogous New Eden creatures, they still seems to show a strong link to Terra. The same for the mythological beings, such as Charon, Loki, Ares and the Rokh.

And finally, note the names taken directly from the Christian Bible: Abaddon, Ark and Leviathan.

So it seems to me that Terran culture did carry over pretty strongly into New Eden.

Thx CCP, I got ganked.. =)

Enter Theosophy and the New Age movement.

After several changes and iterations Theosophy's declared objectives became the following:
1.To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or color.
2.To encourage the study of Comparative Religion, Philosophy, and Science.
3.To investigate the unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in man.

"There is no Religion higher than Truth".

Is this the basis for a "Unified Catholic Church"? Of note, The Church Universal and Triumphant and the Rosicrucians.

Theosophy believes in evolution through Root Races based on the number seven. It states that mankind is currently moving toward the apex of the Aryan race. At present, humanity's evolution is at the fifth stage, or Round, the so-called Aryan Root race, which is developing on its appointed geologic/climatic period.

And the racial divisions of the 4th Root Race are as follows;
1.the Rmoahal
2.the Tlavati (Cro-Magnons)
3.the Toltec (a term which Theosophists use as a synonym for American Indians)
4.the Turanian
5.the (original) Semites (e.g., the Phoenicians)
6.the Akkadians, and
7.the Mongolian, which migrated to and colonized East Asia.

Generally speaking, a large percentage of the people who live in the time of the period of the fifth root race are part of the fifth root race. So by extension, most of the colonists who entered the Gate were Aryans, if the theorum bears out.


"The Aryan races, for instance, now varying from dark brown, almost black, red-brown-yellow, down to the whitest creamy colour, are yet all of one and the same stock - the Fifth Root-Race." i.e. Terrans.

The makeup of the Aryan Root Race is as follows;
1. Hindu
2. Arabian
3. Persian
4. Celtic
5. Teutonic
6. Australo-American
7. In the future, the seventh root race will arise from the seventh subrace of the sixth root race, which arises from the Australo Americans. I could not find a connotation for the seventh subrace of the Aryans.. The Jove, perhaps?

This makes the Australo-American race the progenitor of the sixth Root race. The conclusion I have come to is that the Matari are the 6th Root race, the Australo-Americans, loosely, anyway.. This explains why there were seven conceptualized Matari tribes..

From the Matari will spring the new race, which logically follows as the Enhuadanni. And gives a reason as to why the Enhuadanni are concerned with saving the Matari peoples, or one tribe in particular, they are their ancestors. At least that is what I have come to believe, and have seen nothing in canon that disputes the view. Though, if anyone can debunk it, please do, I may indeed be too invested in the theory..

Of note, the "old" races don't disappear, they live side by side with the other races, slowly evolving into new incarnations.

P.S. To those who wish to dwell on the bigotry and hate associated with race consider these passages by the Theosophists,

Regarding the relations between the Negro race and other races in the Western Hemisphere, Bailey wrote that it "constitutes a very ugly story, seriously implicates the white man and provides an outstanding disgrace", and that "The white people face a grave responsibility and it lies in their hands to change conditions."

Also, "Right human relations must be firmly established between the emerging Negro empire and the rest of the world; the new ideals and the new world trends must be fostered in the receptive Negro consciousness and in this way darkest Africa will become a radiant center of light, ready for self-government and expressing true freedom."

Carrying these lines of reasoning to a logical course or courses, what is it that religions around the world today stress as the course to enlightenment? I would argue that a surrender of the self and the preoccupation with the worldly experience, the abandoning of material existence is the key to ascension.

Even the myths of the Matari associated with the Sleepers speak of their world weariness and wish for a peaceful coexistance. Very religious and philisophical ideals. Very likely aspirants of a Unified Catholic Church..IMHO

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