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Dev blog: Solar Flares

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Darkblad
Doomheim
#41 - 2014-05-28 19:04:43 UTC
Devblog wrote:
Its peak is unfortunately over and simply needs to be replaced by something younger and fresher.
That did refer to the lens flares, right? Not to somebody who just turned 40?

NPEISDRIP

M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#42 - 2014-05-28 19:20:00 UTC
I didn't realize the stars in EVE had flares in the first place... huh. Still learning new things about this game after 3 years.

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.

Tikitina
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-05-28 19:27:53 UTC
Looks nice, but what I would really want is true brightness scaling per distance from the star.

IIRC, 30+ AU from a G-Type star, you can't really determine which pinpoint of light is the star in that system, which means most of the light you would be getting would be from the star field that surrounds you. Could be interesting.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2014-05-28 19:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Lens flares, not solar flares.
Not solar anything for that matter because that refers to the Sun, and there's only one Sun in the entire universe. Furthermore it's nowhere near New Eden.
There are stars, not suns. Please refer to them as such properly.
If you were to actually implement "solar flares" (which again, these aren't) the proper term would be stellar flares.
These are, however, gorgeous as I've said previously.

The next step as others have said would be to implement a more realistic scaling of brightness and size with distance. The math is already there and it's really fairly simple.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-05-28 19:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaijin Lanis
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Not solar anything for that matter because that refers to the Sun, and there's only one Sun in the entire universe. Furthermore it's nowhere near New Eden..


Or you could take sun/star as referencing the distance one is from a star. Far away suns are stars. Close stars are the sun. et cetera.

As considering this sort of quibble only comes up in pretend scenarios with pretend spessships being flown by pretend spessmen in the vicinity of, generally, pretend orbital bodies, its not really something anyone has a purely factual basis to reference when discussing terminology.

For instance, if we were to colonize one of the kepler planets, the star of that system would more than likely be referred to as "the sun" for all intents and purposes. Although there might be people walking around screaming about how "THAT IS NOT THE SUN THAT IS A STAR! THE "SUN" IS LIGHTYEARS AWAY!!" But some mysterious accident would be likely to befall such an individual.


But otherwise, yea, the solar flare vs lens flare thing is pretty damned bad.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.

Vhelnik Cojoin
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#46 - 2014-05-28 20:01:32 UTC
Adroc Novac wrote:
Dear Devs,

In keeping with the theme of making EVE gritty and realistic as possible, please consider making the solar glare scale realistically. At 50 AU even betelgeuse, a stupidly massive star, would appear to be a tiny point of light in black empty space. (Snip.)

Not really. Betelgeuse is ~ 1000 times the radius of our Sun, which is ~ 1000 x 0.00465 AU = 4.65 AU.

So as seen from a distance of 50 AU, Betelgeuse would appear to have an apparent diameter of 2 x atan( 4.65 / 50 ) ~ 10.6 degrees. That is about the width of your hand held at arm's length. The stars depicted by the graphics engine in EVE are thus *much* smaller than Betelgeuse.

Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EvE-oconomy and o-kay for you.

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#47 - 2014-05-28 20:19:13 UTC
Still can't look at it without my eyes stinging..

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#48 - 2014-05-28 20:50:25 UTC
This once again brings up the issue of game 'landscaping'. Why don't we see different areas around the system have different combat static attributes, as you do in wormholes?
Seeing certain bonuses and handicaps to fighting around stars, asteroid belts, and other places in the game would be a wonderful addition to game immersion.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-05-28 20:51:53 UTC
Also...those green and blue green stars are gorgeous. The vertical one gives a very specific sci-fi feel I am enjoying. :D
Mag's
Azn Empire
#50 - 2014-05-28 20:54:15 UTC
Lens flares, yea they look nice. Thanks.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#51 - 2014-05-28 21:28:03 UTC
When are we going to see binary stars? The vast majority of star systems in our galaxy are multiple star systems, so it might be interesting to have multiple stars to warp to.
Sven Viko VIkolander
In space we are briefly free
#52 - 2014-05-28 21:39:29 UTC
Love the graphics improvements coming in this release, keep up the amazing work!
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#53 - 2014-05-28 21:39:53 UTC
Nice lens flares, looking forward to see them in game.

Where will the vertical one end up, WH space?
GeeShizzle MacCloud
#54 - 2014-05-28 21:53:32 UTC
seriously loving the new lens flares, but that's what they are....

....lens flares.

NOT solar flares.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2014-05-28 22:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Gaijin Lanis wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Not solar anything for that matter because that refers to the Sun, and there's only one Sun in the entire universe. Furthermore it's nowhere near New Eden..


Or you could take sun/star as referencing the distance one is from a star. Far away suns are stars. Close stars are the sun. et cetera.

But that's not what it means. Sun is a proper noun, a name, referring to one specific star. It doesn't mean the star we're closest to (wherever we happen to be), it means the star that Earth is orbiting.

What you're suggesting is the equivalent of calling every planet that we colonize Earth, or calling every city we build New York.

If we were to colonize a planet around a named star, we wouldn't start calling it the Sun. It's not like the Sun is the only star that has a name. We have names for thousands of stars. And we can easily name even more stars if they become important enough to us.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Inquisitor Tyr
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#56 - 2014-05-28 22:08:09 UTC
+1 for making things pretty.
Sissy Fuzz
Sissy Fuzz Communications
#57 - 2014-05-28 22:10:17 UTC
Allow me at this point to point out - since nobody else seem to have noticed - that these are LENS flares and not SOLAR flares. Or rather STELLAR flares as could be argued by someone really fond of posting.

There.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#58 - 2014-05-28 22:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
CCP: The suns in each solar system will now be 25% more annoying !

Me: um.....thanks?

CCP: You're welcome !!!!

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-05-28 22:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaijin Lanis
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
But that's not what it means. Sun is a proper noun, a name, referring to one specific star. It doesn't mean the star we're closest to (wherever we happen to be), it means the star that Earth is orbiting.

What you're suggesting is the equivalent of calling every planet that we colonize Earth, or calling every city we build New York.

If we were to colonize a planet around a named star, we wouldn't start calling it the Sun. It's not like the Sun is the only star that has a name. We have names for thousands of stars. And we can easily name even more stars if they become important enough to us.


What I'm suggesting is language evolves based upon usage. Were we to terraform and colonize mars, we would probably maintain such colloquialisms as "toiling in the earth" and referring to "dirt" as "earth." Rather than referring to martian dirt as "Mars" or what have you. That would not mean we're calling Mars, Earth, it would simply mean we're calling "dirt" "earth."

There would always be "that guy" walking around screaming about people referring to "Mars" as "earth" or what have you, but like in the previous hypothetical, some mysterious accident would eventually befall him.

Terms like "sun burn" and "sunlight" wouldn't change depending upon whatever solar system you're in, unless you're talking to "That Guy," who is mysteriously still alive, despite all his "accidents."

But hey, if you want to get really, really pedantic (and I have a hunch, that yes, you do) the term "earth" and "sun" predates our definitions of planets/stars. Therefore it wouldn't be completely outside the realm of possibility to adapt said terms to what they referred to originally. Sun = bright hot ball in sky, earth = thing you're standing on. Also earth's proper name is "Terra," our Star is "Sol," our moon is "Luna," but all these terms get used in contexts not specifically referring to their Proper Noun namesakes.

Sissy Fuzz wrote:
Allow me at this point to point out - since nobody else seem to have noticed - that these are LENS flares and not SOLAR flares. Or rather STELLAR flares as could be argued by someone really fond of posting.

There.

Allow me to point this out - Since you didn't seem to notice - Most everyone in the thread noticed that. CCP, on the other hand... is CCP.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.

Be4st
The Abusement Park
#60 - 2014-05-28 22:42:58 UTC
Nice effects. Now I'm just waiting for CCP to announce... 'Sun flares will disrupt your electronics and decloak your ship at random intervals'.