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Would you PLEX for music?

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-05-28 12:19:47 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
To better understand your point of view, do you really not like music that much or do you just think there's no point in music sharing in EVE?

I can see it *might* be fun but. We are talking about Eve players here. Fleets chasing each other would just stream Benny Hill music in local. Or record themselves singing and broadcast it. Some things are just too horriable to imagine.

Do we really want people running to media outlets and concerned CSMs crying they've been musically harassed? Or because someone said their singing was atrocious?

I would personally find all of what you just wrote hillarious but yeah, it's probably just me.

On a side note, your forum sig makes me laugh each an every time I see it.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Solecist Project
#22 - 2014-05-28 12:22:02 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Services and software for this exists plentyfull and is free.

What's the point?

At its core, the point is to give players a powerful and easy-to-use tool to creatively influence the social space around them (corp, fleet, grid, system).

The tool could be freely used ''for good' to enrichen a corp or fleet identity or create a pleasing ambiance for everyone to share, or 'for bad' to blast intimidating war-music into the enemy fleet's ears or even just to plss-off the locals, daring them to warp to the music source and shoot it down.

Possibilities would be endless, though sure you may find them obnoxious or distracting to core EVE gameplay. But just imagine your favorite movie without its soundtrack. Big smile

Wow, you're nuts.

That's the second worst idea I've read so far and I'm playing for many years now!

Congratulations!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#23 - 2014-05-28 12:23:08 UTC
Webvan wrote:
You just srart it and forget about it. The only game I can think of that does that is second life (not meant as a scorn). And knowing how that works, the liability excuse is actually bogus. But apart from that comment, it's still just a bit redundant. And really, compared to SL, you are just over complicating the ideal.


I don't know how SL does it, but if the company is providing the service and charging for it, it creates a legal issue. Since they are directly charging and profiting from it. If it is a player made "mod" which allows players to do in game streaming among others who have the mod, then the company isn't directly profiting from it nor are they providing it.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-05-28 12:26:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Gully Alex Foyle
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow, you're nuts.

That's the second worst idea I've read so far and I'm playing for many years now!

Congratulations!

Hey, you get all excited about avatar minidresses and virtual tea-sipping, I'd love a New Eden filled with music.

To each his own, though I personally find avatar minidresses not bad, either.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Marsha Mallow
#25 - 2014-05-28 12:30:58 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I would personally find all of what you just wrote hillarious but yeah, it's probably just me.

On a side note, your forum sig makes me laugh each an every time I see it.

Same, actually made me laugh thinking about it. No more running away from fights or hiding in station, people would kill us just to stop the racket. I'm sure we can still add some creative soundtracks/effects to Eve related videos.

For the sig I need to add a little Ripard sign (like the bat signal), something like this Straight
WTB artist or I'll probably just end up scrawling it in ms paint

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#26 - 2014-05-28 12:38:28 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Webvan wrote:
You just srart it and forget about it. The only game I can think of that does that is second life (not meant as a scorn). And knowing how that works, the liability excuse is actually bogus. But apart from that comment, it's still just a bit redundant. And really, compared to SL, you are just over complicating the ideal.


I don't know how SL does it, but if the company is providing the service and charging for it, it creates a legal issue. Since they are directly charging and profiting from it. If it is a player made "mod" which allows players to do in game streaming among others who have the mod, then the company isn't directly profiting from it nor are they providing it.

Yeah, thats the part where he is over complicating it. CCP doesnt need to actually run any "service" to make something like that work. It's just a matter of having permission to broadcast your stream.

When people suggest things like this, they add in the 'paid service' part thinking it would become a good idea due to playing on the greed of CCP. Makes CCP extra moneys, so must be good, no? But just more spin on fail.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Solecist Project
#27 - 2014-05-28 12:46:41 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow, you're nuts.

That's the second worst idea I've read so far and I'm playing for many years now!

Congratulations!

Hey, you get all excited about avatar minidresses and virtual tea-sipping, I'd love a New Eden filled with music.

To each his own, though I personally find avatar minidresses not bad, either.
Nope.
It's not "To each his own".
What you or I like is completely irrelevant.
The fact that you come up with such a response lets my alarm bells ring out loudly!

What counts is that you didn't put a single deep thought into this "idea".
What counts is how the masses will react to it and it's not hilarious at all!

People will just turn sound off and be extremely annoyed that they HAVE to!
There's a high chance nobody wants to listen to your crap, you know?
Forcing people to listen to something against their will creates ragequitters by the hundreds!

PLEASE! When you think about an idea that affects others,
then also think about how it affects others from *their* POV!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#28 - 2014-05-28 13:02:09 UTC
Hah! Reading on my tablet, totally missed that part in the OP about being forced to listen unless you attacked it. Now thats just lol. No dev in their right mind would do that. Even the brief example I mentioned you could just dissable the stream. Forcing people to listen to it... yep it's up there among top bad suggestions ever assaulted against GD.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-05-28 13:05:35 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
People will just turn sound off and be extremely annoyed that they HAVE to!

If that were the only downside, a trivial 'revert to soundtrack' button would fix it. You could still have people that check out other people's music out of curiosity, leave it on if they like it, turn it off if they don't.

It would just be another way of socializing with people that share your passions while you're both playing the same game, much like you do yourself with your avatar. So yeah, to each his own.


Also, an idea works only if a sizeable number of people love the concept. Then you can go to work on the mechanics.

My OP was meant to test that. There's no point in including every single boring detail in your pitch, even if you actually did already think about it.

Alas, seems that me and Marsha are the only ones so far, and Marsha is probably just humouring me because she's a nice person.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Marsha Mallow
#30 - 2014-05-28 13:07:14 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Forcing people to listen to something against their will creates ragequitters by the hundreds!

PLEASE! When you think about an idea that affects others,
then also think about how it affects others from *their* POV!

Er, not sure this argument works well Sol. Screeching at the frivolous proposal stage indicates it's a great idea. Watch now, it'll get ninja added to the Crius Release (aka 'The Highsec Apocalypse'). New ambient noise sound effect 'wailing' background noise.

Webvan wrote:
No dev in their right mind would do that... Forcing people to listen to it...

*cough* tooltips *cough*

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-05-28 13:09:41 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Hah! Reading on my tablet, totally missed that part in the OP about being forced to listen unless you attacked it. Now thats just lol. No dev in their right mind would do that. Even the brief example I mentioned you could just dissable the stream. Forcing people to listen to it... yep it's up there among top bad suggestions ever assaulted against GD.

Lol see my above reply to Solecist.

Any easily scannable object that has some kind of purpose and meaning to the person that anchored it can make a good PVP driver, even if you had an 'off' switch for that damn trance crap he's broadcasting. Big smile

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Solecist Project
#32 - 2014-05-28 13:12:24 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Forcing people to listen to something against their will creates ragequitters by the hundreds!

PLEASE! When you think about an idea that affects others,
then also think about how it affects others from *their* POV!

Er, not sure this argument works well Sol. Screeching at the frivolous proposal stage indicates it's a great idea. Watch now, it'll get ninja added to the Crius Release (aka 'The Highsec Apocalypse'). New ambient noise sound effect 'wailing' background noise.

Webvan wrote:
No dev in their right mind would do that... Forcing people to listen to it...

*cough* tooltips *cough*

It's not a great idea to force people into listening to crap they don't want to.

The tooltips aren't even comparable to that. Equally crap, but completely different outcome
and ways how it affects the human.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#33 - 2014-05-28 13:14:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Hah! Reading on my tablet, totally missed that part in the OP about being forced to listen unless you attacked it. Now thats just lol. No dev in their right mind would do that. Even the brief example I mentioned you could just dissable the stream. Forcing people to listen to it... yep it's up there among top bad suggestions ever assaulted against GD.

Lol see my above reply to Solecist.

Any easily scannable object that has some kind of purpose and meaning to the person that anchored it can make a good PVP driver, even if you had an 'off' switch for that damn trance crap he's broadcasting. Big smile

You really only care about yourself hu?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-05-28 13:20:20 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
You really only care about yourself hu?

In case you missed the reply I was referring to.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#35 - 2014-05-28 13:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Tooltips? Meh annoying but not driving me to put one in my brainpan. I hotkey most everything anyway, I think they will fix tooltips... I hope. But forced to listen to certain types of music has been used to break people for brainwashing through the torture of it.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Thomas Harding
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-05-28 13:25:37 UTC
Dav Varan wrote:
In space nobody can hear you stream.


I have no mouth, and I must stream.
Solecist Project
#37 - 2014-05-28 13:30:14 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
You really only care about yourself hu?

In case you missed the reply I was referring to.

So there IS no point to it! I see.
This socialising can be done less intrusive,
simply by talking in local and linking to the youtube vids of your music.

People who do want to socialize do so anyway. Already do what you suggest,
but differently, without annoying 99 out of 100 users.

And I doubt Marsha is a nice person. :p

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Marsha Mallow
#38 - 2014-05-28 13:30:24 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
how it affects the human

See my sig to make a complaint on humanitarian grounds... we outsource all that now

Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
It would just be another way of socializing with people that share your passions while you're both playing the same game

The horror.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-05-28 13:36:04 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
The horror.

Hmm I think I should add VIDEOS to the proposal, too!

Why miss out on Guard and Hunter in their black spacesuits, when a resourceful player could broadcast them on the billboard of every single Empire gate?

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#40 - 2014-05-28 13:37:48 UTC
I don't even like the kind of music that my best friends listen and they don't like what I listen Big smile

While the idea of musical EVE is entertaining as a though, I probably wouldn't like any of the music in the vast majority of locals or fleets Smile
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