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Single vexor using garde Is succesfully suicide gank tier 1 industrial
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Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-27 20:56:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
These make ganking cheap and easy. Only 1 account required.

More people need to start doing this so it can be considered a problem.

I got ganked in mine in .6 with a tank fit.

I could believe someone suicided on me over a 30 mil cargo until i looked up what it costs them to do it.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-05-27 22:31:15 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
These make ganking cheap and easy. Only 1 account required.

More people need to start doing this so it can be considered a problem.

I got ganked in mine in .6 with a tank fit.

I could believe someone suicided on me over a 30 mil cargo until i looked up what it costs them to do it.


Congratulations, it only took you a year to figure out that we spend 15m to gank your 600k ship.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2014-05-27 22:43:16 UTC
30m cargo means you weren't scanned and it was a lucky dip. Or it was for reasons other than profit.

Most people's threshold is 80-90m if they are -10, and 110-120m if they are highsec legal and need to fund tags.

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Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2014-05-27 22:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums.

I'm sure you are referring to an alt, but I gotta tell you if I saw you in my system I would gank you even if you were empty due to your incessant whining. It's not always about isk.

The New Order targets haulers that are autopiloting and doesn't really care what you are hauling, you weren't autopiloting were you?

Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining, you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system. Blink

Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-05-28 00:06:27 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums.

I'm sure you are referring to an alt, but I gotta tell you if I saw you in my system I would gank you even if you were empty due to your incessant whining. It's not always about isk.

The New Order targets haulers that are autopiloting and doesn't really care what you are hauling, you weren't autopiloting were you?

Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining, you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system. Blink

Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy.


I know no lifers like you like to throw your worthless 2 cents in every thread but I don't really give a damn what you think.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-05-28 00:14:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Nerf Burger wrote:
I don't really give a damn what you think.

Right back at cha Blink

Now that we have established that neither of us cares what the other thinks, how about you answer my inquiries as to the circumstances of your recent loss and we can have a discussion as to how this can be avoided in the future instead of trying to say "this needs to be changed" when you obviously lack the knowledge required to understand if a change is needed.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-28 01:02:39 UTC
If a solo vexor ganked your 'tanked' T1 indy then it wasn't very tanked. In fact it was likely anti-tanked with some shield mods. 30 mill is not itself enough to warrant a gank, so this was either because you were auto-piloting like a bot-aspirant, or the person saw you and decided to take a gamble, or it was a targeted gank but most likely one of the first two.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2014-05-28 02:49:27 UTC
I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship.
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-05-28 02:55:04 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums.

I'm sure you are referring to an alt, but I gotta tell you if I saw you in my system I would gank you even if you were empty due to your incessant whining. It's not always about isk.

The New Order targets haulers that are autopiloting and doesn't really care what you are hauling, you weren't autopiloting were you?

Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining, you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system. Blink

Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy.


I know no lifers like you like to throw your worthless 2 cents in every thread but I don't really give a damn what you think.



His advice and opinions are not worthless if they are true. The fact that you can't understand why what he said was true and would rather get mad about it, is your problem.

You flew your hualer afk through highsec and paid the price. Its Highsec, meaning security is high, not that it is safe sec.
Ohhhh Feely Nice
Feely Good Logistics
#10 - 2014-05-28 04:52:19 UTC
[Badger, Max EHP]

2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II

3x Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#11 - 2014-05-28 04:52:38 UTC
Yup gonna go do this today :D

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-05-28 05:42:11 UTC
I love that Vexor ganks are becoming more common!

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2014-05-28 05:45:02 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
I love that Vexor ganks are becoming more common!



I have been doing as much as possible to encourage more people into using Vexors.

I have a feeling that the Drone Interfacing change will make Vexor ganking even better.

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Drunken Angel
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-05-28 05:53:20 UTC
Confirming my Corp is currently pushing vexors oh the tears...
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#15 - 2014-05-28 08:50:54 UTC
Whats the dps on a vex? I currently run my badgers to have 14k passive ehp (amps not turn on modules) to survive the alpha strike of a gankcane. Be interesting to run the numbers and see where its killable.

@ op, any cargo over 10 mill makes it impossible to tank your tech1 to make the gank unprofitable. 30 mill cargo means your a profitable gank and thus fair game. Stop using t1 indies.

Will gank for food
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#16 - 2014-05-28 08:54:16 UTC
Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
[Badger, Max EHP]

2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II

3x Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I



only works if a) your not autopiloting b) your not hit by an alpha strike while sat waiting to dock/jump/whatever.

Will gank for food
JohnCrichton
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-05-28 14:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: JohnCrichton
I'll have you know you need three accounts to do this correctly 4 in certain systems.

Just because only one makes the kill doesn't mean more are involved, otherwise the ganker would be very poor very quickly.

Also fit a decent tank or haul the right amount and it's not a problem, choose to fly carelessly and it is your own fault.

EDIT: Also 10 million or even 30 does not make it 'profitable' to gank, also what is profitable and what is worthwhile are very different. Examine my kill history and see how many kills I've made that are that low. (Not including plastic wraps).
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-05-28 14:39:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship.


its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-05-28 16:04:23 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship.


its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.


Except that there isn't a problem.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#20 - 2014-05-28 16:07:04 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship.


its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.


The only problem here is between your chair and your keyboard.

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