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Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#1 - 2011-11-17 10:05:46 UTC
Ok so probably an old question, I have been searching around for a nice linux platform for me for quite some time and have settled on Mint 12 with gnome 3.

Is there any one here with a "How to" on getting eve to run on a debian Squeeze and the latest version of wine, Im just so sick of having to use windows and want to learn alot more about using command line and such.

Cheers for your help
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#2 - 2011-11-17 13:40:33 UTC
I am running debian testing with Eve and no problems.

1. first install ia32-libs and nvidia drivers: or ati (# means you need root rights)

# aptitude install ia32-libs winetricks

and for Nvidia

# aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-ia32

or for ATI/AMD

# aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-glx-ia32


2. get ALL wine debs from (either 32 bit [i386) or 64 bit [amd64]


http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/

install them with # dpkg -i *.deb

3. use winetricks

winetricks d3dx36 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 corefonts

4. download the eve client

5. play!
Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#3 - 2011-11-17 18:28:24 UTC
Sorry for being such a noob but im new to alot of the terminal stuff and linux as a whole ( actually built a spare computer from old bits to practice on )


How in Linux do you get root rights, im on ati GFX card so the first and third in point no 1 are needed,



Do i need to actually download all the links from the i386 list and the change files?




where do i get these winetricks corefronts from




Well the next is self explanatory lol



once again sorry for being a linux noob
Nimtra
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-11-19 02:38:03 UTC
Fox Rococo wrote:
Sorry for being such a noob but im new to alot of the terminal stuff and linux as a whole ( actually built a spare computer from old bits to practice on )


How in Linux do you get root rights, im on ati GFX card so the first and third in point no 1 are needed,


in console type: su

Quote:

Do i need to actually download all the links from the i386 list and the change files?


only stuff that is called *.deb


Quote:

where do i get these winetricks corefronts from


I believe its in the repos so : aptitude install winetricks
if you cant find it liek that try aptitude search winetricks

then run that command thats posted up there

Quote:


Well the next is self explanatory lol



once again sorry for being a linux noob


Well Debian isn't the most noob friendly Linux flavor really. I love it though.
But you use Mint it seems. Since mint's packages are mostly those of Ubuntu ( which is based on a snapshot of Debian unstable, which is much different to Debian stable) : http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
Aamrr
#5 - 2011-11-19 02:54:21 UTC
Linux Mint also has a debian based distribution. In fact, I'm using it right now.
MinnaR Mosan
Discorpse
#6 - 2011-11-19 09:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: MinnaR Mosan
My problem is: Where to download eve? I tryed the installer but it doesnt work. I would like to dl the entire game to install it from my hard disk, its not the best idea?

Lol sorry http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1
Leod Athas
TURN LEFT
#7 - 2011-11-19 11:40:47 UTC
I am on Debian Squeeze with the Wine 1.3.31. Basically I went with a good stickied howto on the old forum, which was easy, but I usually know what I am doing.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1139274

was the thread. It wasn't fully complete for me, and I did a few things differently. Here are some I remember:

- I didn't compile the latest commits, but I compiled the latest tagged version, which was 1.3.31 at the time. If you know to use git, this is easy.

- I had a problem with the installer which was remedied by:

sh winetricks vcrun2008

(I think I also installed some others vcrun2010 or something as well.)

- I am on a 64 bit system, so I had to install the 32 bit drivers for my card.

sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-ia32

- I also had to disable Eve Voice, otherwise I would have no sound.
Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#8 - 2011-11-19 22:17:11 UTC
Well im going to give it a crack in a bit, Im actualy using the Mint Debian Distro not the Ubuntu one, so i hope it all works, Im missing my eve lol
Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2011-11-23 19:01:19 UTC
Ok I have downloaded all the packages but can not seem to install them with the command above i get

Quote:
dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
*.deb
Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#10 - 2011-11-23 19:08:54 UTC
ok got that working
Miraqu
Kneipenterroristen.
#11 - 2011-11-24 07:39:10 UTC
Well keep us posted.

A hint, debian and mint are different distributions and while mint / ubuntu are based on debian they do not always use the same packages / package names.

It should still work..... but we never know...
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#12 - 2011-11-25 17:10:04 UTC
I've just installed Debian and I'm in the process of trying to get EVE working.

To be honest, my experience was much more rewarding with Crossover Games. Installing EVE in Wine simply didn't work -- the installer closes with a half-visible and unreadable error. After about two hours of pushing and prodding, I eventually gave up out of sheer frustration.

Working through Crossover, on the other hand, was as smooth as a native Windows install -- just install the Crossover package using your favorite package manager, right-click the EVE installer and click 'Run with Crossover (install)'. Crossover Games automates the entire process -- it sets up the EVE Online bottle, downloads and installs DX9, collects whatever dependencies it requires and installs the EVE client without hassle.

The only issue I've encountered is that when I try to actually run the client, the lncarna loading splash comes up, vanishes, and nothing else happens. However, I've had this particular problem before (in WinXP), and I seem to recall that the solution was to set the client's properties to 'run as Administrator.'

I'm just a few days into my Debian experience, but how would I do that in Linux? I'm not going to monkey with root, of course, but would running EVE as Sudo work in a similar way? Also....how would I set up DX11 (I'm addicted to fancy graphics)?

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Fox Rococo
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#13 - 2011-11-25 23:39:32 UTC
ok then i have down loased both parts of the eve client and the installer, how would i compile them and also the instaler will not seem to run within the wine i have installed,
Leod Athas
TURN LEFT
#14 - 2011-11-26 13:06:33 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:


The issue I've encountered is that when I try to actually run the client, the lncarna loading splash comes up, vanishes, and nothing else happens.


You need to provide what error you are getting. I suggest running from the command line and get the input.

like this:

$ wine explorer /desktop=eve,1680x1050 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe

And tell us what you are getting. Also tell which Debian you are using (stable or testing) and the wine version as well.

Then we may be able to help.
Leod Athas
TURN LEFT
#15 - 2011-11-26 13:13:55 UTC
Fox Rococo wrote:
ok then i have down loaded both parts of the eve client and the installer, how would i compile them and also the instaler will not seem to run within the wine i have installed,


You don't compile them, you install them. Installer issues are usually solved by Miraqu's previous advice of downloading the necessary libraries in your .wine directory with the help of the winetricks script.

1. Get winetricks:
  • wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks

    • 2. Install the necessary stuff with winetricks:
  • sh winetricks d3dx36 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 corefonts


    • It would be nice to see what error you are getting. Run wine from the terminal and see if you got any errors. Or give us the error the installer is giving you.
    Astrid Stjerna
    Sebiestor Tribe
    #16 - 2011-11-28 17:19:06 UTC
    Leod Athas wrote:
    Astrid Stjerna wrote:


    The issue I've encountered is that when I try to actually run the client, the lncarna loading splash comes up, vanishes, and nothing else happens.


    You need to provide what error you are getting. I suggest running from the command line and get the input.

    like this:

    $ wine explorer /desktop=eve,1680x1050 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe

    And tell us what you are getting. Also tell which Debian you are using (stable or testing) and the wine version as well.

    Then we may be able to help.



    I was using Squeeze, and I updated my drivers, which fixed the major problem. The remaining issue is that the system hung when I tried to go past the character select screen.

    Anyway, I've renstalled Windows, with no hard feelings toward Linux. I'll probably go back at some point, but for now, Win 7 remains the hassle-free option. :)

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