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Plex costs.

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Greckor Arrkana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-05-26 14:58:00 UTC
Currently the cost of Plex is nowhere near fair for all members of the community. Looking at amazon currently the cost of 6 Plex is substantially disproportionately cheap for all american players.

USA: $104.97
Germany: €89.99 ($122.77)
UK: £89.99 ($151.59)

On average the Americans save $32.21, anyone purchasing plex to increase there ISK is surely at an advantage if they are american. And considering this is a global server this certainly isn't fair on all members of the community. ( Which is why buying ISK outwith CCP is against rules)

If someone could explain why? Or even include the cost in their currency which isn't there.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#2 - 2014-05-26 14:59:53 UTC
VAT is a *****.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2014-05-26 15:00:54 UTC
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
If someone could explain why?
Because Amazon is evil?
Solely Project
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-05-26 15:01:08 UTC
This has been talked about already over and over again!

If you cared about knowing instead of ranting,
you would've used google!

Try it!
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2014-05-26 15:03:37 UTC
Some has the statistics for average income?
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#6 - 2014-05-26 15:03:45 UTC
£>$

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Winchester Steele
#7 - 2014-05-26 15:04:59 UTC
What a new and interesting topic that has never ever been discussed here before.

...

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#8 - 2014-05-26 15:12:35 UTC
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
isn't fair


I agree

Lets make it fair then, shall we?

CCP! We demand you increase all PLEX to the most expensive rate IMMEADIATELY!

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Greckor Arrkana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-05-26 15:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Greckor Arrkana
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#10 - 2014-05-26 15:15:07 UTC
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.


Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-05-26 15:17:23 UTC
I suggest you write your MP, or whatever passes for a Congressman in Germany.

Because their weird intra-EU tariffs are your most likely culprit.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Greckor Arrkana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-05-26 15:20:38 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.


Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?



Removing VAT from the equation it is still £74.99. Vat isn't £30.
Solace Project
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-05-26 15:22:18 UTC
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.

You have done nothing to help yourself,
else you wouldn't have started this thread.
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#14 - 2014-05-26 15:23:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.


Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?



Removing VAT from the equation it is still £74.99. Vat isn't £30.


Actually it would be £72

And that's not what I said or meant

$/£/Eurobuck prices always differ widely

Why should PLEX be any different?

Also no need to get rude with us. You asked a question that none of us have a definative answer to (as we dont work for CCP) and then you call us unhelpful when we make our suggestions.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Dave Stark
#15 - 2014-05-26 15:31:36 UTC
pretty sure it's because prices in $ never include the relevant sales taxes etc.
Adunh Slavy
#16 - 2014-05-26 15:41:51 UTC
Blame your government, not CCP.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

CCP Falcon
#17 - 2014-05-26 15:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
Currently the cost of Plex is nowhere near fair for all members of the community. Looking at amazon currently the cost of 6 Plex is substantially disproportionately cheap for all american players.

USA: $104.97
Germany: €89.99 ($122.77)
UK: £89.99 ($151.59)

On average the Americans save $32.21, anyone purchasing plex to increase there ISK is surely at an advantage if they are american. And considering this is a global server this certainly isn't fair on all members of the community. ( Which is why buying ISK outwith CCP is against rules)

If someone could explain why? Or even include the cost in their currency which isn't there.


The discrepancy between US and EU prices is due to tax differences. By law, EU prices have to be advertised inclusive of VAT, this is anywhere between 12-27% depending on the country you're buying in.

US Prices do not have to be advertised with state/federal sales tax included, this is why the prices appear lower.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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Greckor Arrkana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-05-26 15:55:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Greckor Arrkana
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!

Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.


Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?



Removing VAT from the equation it is still £74.99. Vat isn't £30.


Actually it would be £72

And that's not what I said or meant

$/£/Eurobuck prices always differ widely

Why should PLEX be any different?

Also no need to get rude with us. You asked a question that none of us have a definative answer to (as we dont work for CCP) and then you call us unhelpful when we make our suggestions.


You are being helpful. Even the person telling me to google it is helpful. I realize this is a commonly raised issue. And that you guys must get bored answering the same question. But i am confused in the need of comments referring to the originality. I am sure that you could read the first line a realise that i am a massive idiot and not decide to comment. I understand and really don't care. Useless comments (Which clearly is ironic for me to say) is where that response was aimed.

Regarding the fact that prices do vary i completely agree. But you are talking about ISK, a separate virtual currency.
So there should be an exchange rate for:

USD> ISK 6668571.97294
EURO>ISK 5701718.66091
GBP>ISP 4617718.84689

Average: 5662669.82691

On average exchange rate:
USA: +15.08%
GER: +0.68%
UK: -22.6%

These differences are substantial!
And there are plenty of examples of prices remaining balances through exchange rates. For example steam is rather good at this.

EDIT: Thanks for the answer CCP Falcon
CCP Falcon
#19 - 2014-05-26 15:58:32 UTC
Greckor Arrkana wrote:
EDIT: Thanks for the answer CCP Falcon


No worries! xD


CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Emma Muutaras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-05-26 16:00:32 UTC
get a proxy that shows your in the US and buy at the lower rate? not sure if thats legal though as your kinda avoiding the tax you should pay
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