Ships & Modules

Why should an equal number of T1 frigates be balanced against a faction frigate at all? One's designed to be more powerful than the other. No one argues that frigates and battleships should be balanced so that 1v1 they have equal chances, so why make the argument for different tiers within a class of ship?

Numbers are the equalizer in a massively multiplayer online game like this, and if you don't like it, unsub and go play a single player game. If you don't like how blobby sov warfare is, don't participate. There's plenty to do in EVE, and you aren't coerced into playing certain ways by CCP or anything beyond the rules built into the game.

If you want to take the nerfing argument ad absurdum, the most balanced game is that everyone flies the same ship with the same equipment all the time. If you aren't nerfing things, you'll end up with the majority in whatever's "best," but there will always be a minority trying to make the rest work, and that's where most of the innovation and interesting gameplay comes from. I live in Guristas territory, everyone rats in Drakes. Does that stop me from wanting to try, say, a Myrmidon out to see if I can make it work? Nope, and if I find a fit that works, all the better.

Instead of complaining to CCP about game balance, make some friends and go play the game and have fun. If the lack of balance is really that bad, vote with your wallet, as is your right.

in all honesty, drams aren't that hard to beat because a great number of those are just FOTM followers that can be considered average/below average pilots.



the real challenge is the ones that are really good.

actually no.

CCP said that pirate ships > T2 hulls

the pecking order, according to CCP is actually pirate ships > T2 hulls > faction navy > T1.


it is, however, true, that the dram was miles ahead and not just "better".

Because the game should be about maximising fun for everyone, for as much time as possible?

It is true that with enough time, money and friends, anything is possible in this game. And I'm sure living inside the Goonswarm, near the top of the hierarchy (I'm assuming), many of these the things you suggest are easily within reach. Maybe its hard for you to see what its like for all those new starters (that we should be encouraging)?

You have access to huge swarms of hurricanes to smash into super caps. Most people do not.
You have access to huge sums of isk to buy a new characters if your current characters skills are not suitable. Most people do not.

For a new starter that trains for months in Gallente, only to find out that they need to train projectiles to be competitive at pvp, is not maximising fun, for example.

Yes, they could buckle down, set a new skill plan, earn some isk, buy a character. But if they just want to pvp with a chance of success it can be disheartening to have 'wasted' all that time.

Also, 'Hello Friends' ?!?!?

Well I almost agree with you except once I've read about new BC's a while ago, I just couldn't stop thinking "wtf why?'

Why introduce new sub capital wtfpown gank machines when regular BC's were already good at that?
Why nerf supers when all you needed was to bring dreads to the battlefield and improve BS's?
Yes instead of BS guns on Bc put capital guns on BS would be much more appropriated in addition to fighters and FB adjustments.

Actually you need to go on SISI and have the picture of what's happening in game, and all this in a single system.

I wish I could NERF things in real life. Swing a b@t and knock anything I believe is ******** out... NERF TAXES!

OP is clearly fat.

So, what do you propose we as a community with our human ingenuity do to in terms of a solution? The existing suggestion in your post effectively suggests that we simply do not use what does not work - is this correct?

If I were to choose a big and obvious topic such as the sub-par performance and difficult match of Gallente / Hybrid ships in the game? What would your suggestion be, if any, in this area other than to fly a race/ships/weapons that perform better?

Is it the case that with my example you believe we should accept that a given race may be just 'worse' than all the other races and can be chosen if a player wants to but apart from role-play/aesthetics?

Are you even in the middle class?

Did you know that repetition of a "fact," in the public arena, tends to cause that statement to become a believed fact?

You see it in advertising and politics all the time.


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