CSM Campaigns

Xenuria, you say people bought votes or paid for plex to make accounts to vote rig. Do you realise how utterly ludicrous that sounds? Lets do some math and assume that for me to get into the CSM I need 9000 votes.

If we assume plex is 900m ISK, for me to get 9000 votes I'd need to spend 8,100,000,000,000 ISK on plex to go with that theory. Even if we take plex (or 30 day time codes) prices from several years ago at 450m a pop, that is still a rather large sum. The only people that could likely afford that sort of ISK are also the sort of people that can send out a Jabber ping asking their coalition to vote for them and not have to resort to buying accounts to vote for themselves. I don't think it's even worth discussing the amount of time it would take to sign up, sign in and vote on even 100 accounts let alone 9k.

Ok, so that idea is pretty preposterous. How about we use real money to buy 9000 plex. At today's prices that's just shy of 180,000 USD. OK, so that idea is pretty silly as well. Even if we just assume to get 1000 votes from these methods the numbers and effort is quite ridiculous.

Yes, CCP said that in one instance that there was a mention of people using ISK to buy votes however that was pretty public when the player claimed they'd do it and I don't believe they ever followed through with it and it was back in 2011.

I explained in the interview that (Former CCP) Dolan was not taking the process seriously. He banned me from participating because he claimed I did damage to CCP servers in a cyber attack. When asked for proof he cited a post on 4chan.

"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact." -4chan disclaimer


I recommend you do some research before mincing contexts and content like they were some kind of ~Distraction Milkshake~.


In most other games the impracticality of a caper or play is a deterrent, in EvE it's a challenge. You have to understand that people in eve throw money around in some of the most irresponsible ways imaginable. No fit too shiney, no election too costly.

kinda fixed the CSM voting as we allready know who will win even before it is casted as goons all vote for them self and cfc would also vote for them self,

Why don't you run for CSM I'd vote for you over xenuria anytime. Along with my massed accounts that I obviously buy.

fwiw the amount of votes you needed to get elected last year was 830, which makes that number a lot more reasonable. Still insane, but within the realm of possibility. I mean, 700B is easily doable, for example that was the sponsorship that IWantISK provided to #EVE_NT.

Maybe the gambling websites should just elect their own members? Ahahaha.... I don't like where this is going.

I never said it was fixed.

The only thing typical is the percentage of posters here that didn't bother reading anything before clicking "POST".



Satirical or not, this is kind of my point. CCP has such robust methods to shut down bot and RMT farms; yet these same methods are not used for vote farming. The legitimacy of voting blocs is not in question.

I take issue with the reality that according to CCP and the CSM WhitePaper, there is not a single policy prohibiting the wholesale purchase and plexing of accounts for the sole purpose of vote power. Buying loads of accounts and actually playing them or using them is entirely different than only ever logging them in to plex them.

Get my vote any time,

You should post with your mains like Xenuria wants us to.


I wonder could Xenuria be using mass amounts of accounts to vote for him.

Can you offer any kind of guarantee that if I were to vote for you; that my vote would be more wasted than if I were to simply vote for the leading goon candidate?

-What experience do you have in what parts of space?-
I have been in every kind of space at least once, the area of space where I have the least amount of experience is probably wormholes. When I do anything in-game or otherwise and I encounter something that confuses me I research it, it's a reflex.

-What kinds of organizations have you been a part of?-
Hydra Reloaded, Pasta/Pizza, DTF (Incursion),PL OG.
I have been in many different orgs, some of which were doing interesting stuff and others not so much. I still spent the time to learn about it either way.

-Have you held positions of responsibility in said organizations, and what were they?-
I was the acting director of Hydra Reloaded for a awhile, I started a rather amusing task force to protect carebears from gate camps. It worked really well because gate campers just warped off when they saw our fleet.

I was an albatross for PIZZA/PASTA several times. I was really good at being in he right place at the right time.

When in PL I just played ARMA 3 with some of the people on mumble and learned about what they do in-between dropping fleets on people.

I participated in a incursion caper with Darious III, wherein we would kill the mothership to prevent people from farming isk in incursion systems. I like doing things that are challenging yet fascinating.

-Are there mechanics you've found through those experiences that you'd like to see fixed, and what are the fixes you'd prefer?-
Since CCP Seagull rose to power within CCP, most of the changes I would have advocated for happened already. There are still things I would change or see changed, but I will defer to my peers who have more experience in those areas. My stretch goal is the HD Texture Packs that CCP has been alluding too for years now. Some of the clothing items look like they were rendered in second life, the texture quality is practically anachronistic when compared to the other assets of eve.

-Do you have any theories, or preferences on how sovnull mechanics should be changed?-
I think occupancy based sov is the best sov. This gives other player entities a chance to carve out a place of their own.