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Naomie Hunter
You Are Being Hunted
#1 - 2014-05-23 15:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomie Hunter
Hello Crime and Punishment,

I'm looking for some advice on a service that I would like to provide in the Universe; assassinations (via kill-right hunting).

Is this a viable service to provide in-game?


  1. Contact me in-game with the name of the intended target you would like to take revenge upon (probably keep it to H/L Sec only)
  2. Provide the 'Killmail' that provided you with a legal 'Kill-right' against said target.
  3. Negotiation of terms (such as 50% deposit, 50% on completion) or the full sum re-paid if incomplete (see below).
  4. Use 'Locator Agents' (which I am building relationships with) to identify the target location.
  5. Service would be provided on a GMT friendly schedule.
  6. Time-limit of one week to neutralise the target, or all money re-paid.


Please note that I am only looking for advice, and that I am a new player who may not fully understand the correct mechanics of the game. I hope to build a reputable service (the first few assassinations could be free of charge) to provide evidence and build a relative level of trust.

Anyway, I thank you for the input you may or may not provide, and thank you for your time.

Naomie Hunter
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-05-23 15:41:09 UTC
You should learn the mechanics of the game before offering a service or it will fail.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-05-23 15:44:46 UTC
Kill rights are pretty useless. Not always, but mostly. I do wish you luck.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-05-23 16:20:31 UTC
Naomie Hunter wrote:
Hello Crime and Punishment,

I'm looking for some advice on a service that I would like to provide in the Universe; assassinations (via kill-right hunting).

Is this a viable service to provide in-game?


  1. Contact me in-game with the name of the intended target you would like to take revenge upon (probably keep it to H/L Sec only)
  2. Provide the 'Killmail' that provided you with a legal 'Kill-right' against said target.
  3. Negotiation of terms (such as 50% deposit, 50% on completion) or the full sum re-paid if incomplete (see below).
  4. Use 'Locator Agents' (which I am building relationships with) to identify the target location.
  5. Service would be provided on a GMT friendly schedule.
  6. Time-limit of one week to neutralise the target, or all money re-paid.


Please note that I am only looking for advice, and that I am a new player who may not fully understand the correct mechanics of the game. I hope to build a reputable service (the first few assassinations could be free of charge) to provide evidence and build a relative level of trust.

Anyway, I thank you for the input you may or may not provide, and thank you for your time.

Naomie Hunter

Change the duration to negotiable, or default it to the length of the killright (one month maximum). During nnegotiations, give the option to establish a minimum value for the kill to count.

No matter how you do this, business will be slow, but it could be a good way to get some experience and lead into wardecs or other high sec merc work.

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Naomie Hunter
You Are Being Hunted
#5 - 2014-05-23 16:45:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomie Hunter
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You should learn the mechanics of the game before offering a service or it will fail.
Good thing I have not yet started the service, but thank you, I'll remember those words.

Leto Thule wrote:
Kill rights are pretty useless. Not always, but mostly. I do wish you luck.
Thank you very much Leto, I'll try and have as much fun as possible Cool

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Change the duration to negotiable, or default it to the length of the killright (one month maximum). During nnegotiations, give the option to establish a minimum value for the kill to count.
No matter how you do this, business will be slow, but it could be a good way to get some experience and lead into wardecs or other high sec merc work.
Great advice, thanks Rhubarb. I've not started yet but I'll certainly be taking this advice on board for the future! Smile
Cyran Reinhard
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-05-23 17:58:37 UTC
Ways that you can also "prove" yourself is actually killing people with public killrights and going out and wardeccing.
Naomie Hunter
You Are Being Hunted
#7 - 2014-05-23 20:43:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomie Hunter
Cyran Reinhard wrote:
Ways that you can also "prove" yourself is actually killing people with public killrights and going out and wardeccing.
Hey Cyran, good point!

I've submitted changes to my overview to show players who have public kill-right's against them, though in the past few days I am yet to find any pop up. Do you have any recommendations? Is there a channel that I could join?

Thanks!
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-05-24 06:17:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Naomie Hunter wrote:
Cyran Reinhard wrote:
Ways that you can also "prove" yourself is actually killing people with public killrights and going out and wardeccing.


Hey Cyran, good point!

I've submitted changes to my overview to show players who have public kill-right's against them, though in the past few days I am yet to find any pop up. Do you have any recommendations? Is there a channel that I could join?

Thanks!


Does not work like that.

The overview does not update immediately. You need to actually click on a guy to see if he has a killright. Then it will show in the overview.

On another note.

I would suggest you learn the game first. Kill some people with wardecs.

This has been said before. Killrights for the most part are useless. It is very seldom that you actually find somebody stupid enough to fly around with a killright in a nice big ship. You do find them and I have but I can count on my fingers how many in the past year. (Not counting the Killrights that people actually assign to me)

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#9 - 2014-05-24 06:46:23 UTC
As has been noted, you can look for people with open killrights (and there is an overview setting that will show them in local or on grid), but they are pretty rare.

Almost anybody who gets open killrights on them quickly hops into a rookie ship and activates the killrights with an alt or has a buddy do it, then said rookie ship gets blown up. KR cleared, back to work.

Most open killrights are set at or about 10 million isk to activate. Anything higher (like, say, some guy flying around with open KR that cost 50-100 million or more ISK to activate), its either a scam or the person has no idea what they are doing.

Anything lower is pretty rare, and if you set KR open to anybody (global) for less than 10 million you just wasted the KR. At least setting it to 10-15 mill you get some money that way.

And this is in highsec; in low/null/WH space nobody cares about KR, for obvious reasons.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-05-24 09:25:30 UTC
GL with your learning experience.

However as other people stated, i'd also recommend holding a tad off the service, and learn the ropes first.
I just looked you up on Zkillboard, and there's nothing to display. :(

If you need help though, just contact me in-game, and i'll see if i can help with anything.

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Naomie Hunter
You Are Being Hunted
#11 - 2014-05-24 09:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomie Hunter
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Does not work like that.

The overview does not update immediately. You need to actually click on a guy to see if he has a killright. Then it will show in the overview.

On another note.

I would suggest you learn the game first. Kill some people with wardecs.

This has been said before. Killrights for the most part are useless. It is very seldom that you actually find somebody stupid enough to fly around with a killright in a nice big ship. You do find them and I have but I can count on my fingers how many in the past year. (Not counting the Killrights that people actually assign to me)
Hey Cannibal, thank you for dropping in to share you're thoughts. I have done some reading and have a lot of respect for the skill you demonstrate in EVE. It's my hope that I can become a skilled 'solo' player and learn from what you do.

Thank you all very much for the feedback & advice you have provided.

I think it's a unanimous verdict, that the service should be put on hold while I improve my knowledge, understanding and experience killing others in-game.