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[IGB Request] Google docs support for IGB is slowly getting depreciate

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Tiberius Zol
Moira.
#21 - 2014-07-09 08:08:59 UTC
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#22 - 2014-07-09 13:09:41 UTC
In that thread an in-game overlay is mentioned as an existing alternative for the IGB. I thought that sounded like a good idea until I did some research on what making one would entail and discovered that hooking into the D3D calls and injecting a custom .dll is the method that seems to be used most often. And also most often used by cheaters judging by the number of search results that led to cheating websites. Is this .dll injection practice something we can pursue as third party developers? I wouldn't mind making an alternative to the IGB, but I don't want to make something that enables cheating or something that gets everyone who uses it banned. If it's not, can we use something like Overwolf even if they use the same method?
Osi Shannara
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-07-12 06:09:12 UTC
This is very odd. IGM (In Game (web) Browser) is not related in anyway to CREST (basically, REST web service APIs). There are a few reasons to keep IGB updated instead of abandoning it:

1. Browsing in game is MUCH safer then tabbing out to an external browser (think PVP .. ala EVE)
2. Headers are extremely useful for websites that cater to EVE players.
3. hmmm... what else ...

However, since IGB has been abandoned (as confirmed by the dev earlier). Why leave it in the game? Are there other heavily used and needed features in the game on the chopping block? This is a very, very scary precedent.
YourSherpa
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2014-07-13 07:00:58 UTC  |  Edited by: YourSherpa
Osi Shannara wrote:
This is very odd. IGM (In Game (web) Browser) is not related in anyway to CREST (basically, REST web service APIs).

2. Headers are extremely useful for websites that cater to EVE players.
3. hmmm... what else ...


The headers information that the IGB currently gives to trusted websites will all be available via SSO and CREST when SSO and CREST rolls out in full.

Instead of browsing to a website in game, getting asked to grant trust by that website and then reloading the page in game and giving that website static data, you will now browse to that website out of game, login in with the EVE SSO, and grant that website access to you chars public CREST information(all things found in current headers). On top of that, in the future you will also be able to grant that website to access your private CREST info for use in out of game 3rd party tools (such as eve mail reading and writing out of game). An additional benefit is not needing to have you IGB open and constantly refreshing to update your location in the headers, once you grant a website access to your information, it can say track your char location in space by itself which is extremely useful for applications for wormhole mapping.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#25 - 2014-07-13 09:29:50 UTC
YourSherpa wrote:
Osi Shannara wrote:
This is very odd. IGM (In Game (web) Browser) is not related in anyway to CREST (basically, REST web service APIs).

2. Headers are extremely useful for websites that cater to EVE players.
3. hmmm... what else ...


The headers information that the IGB currently gives to trusted websites will all be available via SSO and CREST when SSO and CREST rolls out in full.

Instead of browsing to a website in game, getting asked to grant trust by that website and then reloading the page in game and giving that website static data, you will now browse to that website out of game, login in with the EVE SSO, and grant that website access to you chars public CREST information(all things found in current headers). On top of that, in the future you will also be able to grant that website to access your private CREST info for use in out of game 3rd party tools (such as eve mail reading and writing out of game). An additional benefit is not needing to have you IGB open and constantly refreshing to update your location in the headers, once you grant a website access to your information, it can say track your char location in space by itself which is extremely useful for applications for wormhole mapping.


All of that sounds good... but you still won't be able to browse in the game window.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#26 - 2014-07-13 15:05:06 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
YourSherpa wrote:
Osi Shannara wrote:
This is very odd. IGM (In Game (web) Browser) is not related in anyway to CREST (basically, REST web service APIs).

2. Headers are extremely useful for websites that cater to EVE players.
3. hmmm... what else ...


The headers information that the IGB currently gives to trusted websites will all be available via SSO and CREST when SSO and CREST rolls out in full.

Instead of browsing to a website in game, getting asked to grant trust by that website and then reloading the page in game and giving that website static data, you will now browse to that website out of game, login in with the EVE SSO, and grant that website access to you chars public CREST information(all things found in current headers). On top of that, in the future you will also be able to grant that website to access your private CREST info for use in out of game 3rd party tools (such as eve mail reading and writing out of game). An additional benefit is not needing to have you IGB open and constantly refreshing to update your location in the headers, once you grant a website access to your information, it can say track your char location in space by itself which is extremely useful for applications for wormhole mapping.


All of that sounds good... but you still won't be able to browse in the game window.

And it would also be nice to have some other estimate on how likely we are to really see CREST implementation in a way that addresses the community's concerns. Something other than "It's coming." or "Soon (tm)."
CREST has been teased for a long time now at this point. It also has a lot to live up to in terms of the possibility to enable 3rd Party devs to replicate existing functionality across all of the different use cases currently satisfied by the IGB.

I'm right behind you
Alundil
Rolled Out
#27 - 2014-07-13 15:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alundil
Duped..... Thanks forum gank

I'm right behind you
Alundil
Rolled Out
#28 - 2014-07-13 15:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Alundil
Duped..... Thanks forum gank

I'm right behind you
Lady Zarrina
New Eden Browncoats
#29 - 2014-07-13 21:55:54 UTC
I can't imagine playing eve without the IGB.

- goggle docs/spreadsheet
- Dotlan
- eve survival, eve wiki
- simple web browsing while doing mind numbing tasks, but need to keep easy focus on eve.

If I am playing Eve for more than 10 minutes I have opened up the IGB.

EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
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