EVE General Discussion

I agree with Eve having gone soft.
The rest is crap posting. There's no reason for any vet (2003 here) to have any automatic advantage at all.

But. I miss stuff that was hard, maybe even stupidly so or simply broken, that made the game more challenging and fun for me.
Things like having no scan probes but also no cloaks, or a world without jumpbridges and jumpdrives, but also without bubbles.

Alot of stuff got introduced, followed by counters, that simply hasn't made things any better. Just....more.

Paying for a game for 7 years in NOT hard effort.

Passive no work skill training is NOT hard effort.

Sitting and waiting to hear "Skill training completed" is NOT hard effort.

The only think in eve that is "effort" is pvp and industry. Much of the effort in eve is from bad game design, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Back before WoW went soft, Raiding required effort, lots of effort, you had to be on a time X and commit to working with a group of people in a proper way or you got nothing but a repair bill. It was never as hard as EQ was, but it was still more effort than oops gotta set my alarm to swap skills. There is NO training in eve, there is NO effort in paying a credit card bill for skill points. The entire fabric of character development in eve is a complete joke. You get rewarded for NOT being online. You make more isk by SCAMMING than any other activity. The most lucrative activities in eve come from being a parasite.


I play eve because there are so many ways to pvp with so many combinations. I get to hunt people who are scum, and I get to it without worrying about being banned. I get to inflict real losses on them. I have no illusions that having the patience to sit and "train" for 28 days has anything to do with MY EFFORT.

I don't think that the game is becoming "more idiot friendly".

The veterans get better at the game & quickly assimilate new information & know how to take advantage of game mechanics.

This is, in my opinion, the single most important reason why a new & I do stress the word new player should not buy a 70 million sp player from the bazaar & expect to play like a vet. The proliferation of high skill point players in the game who are clueless is probably because many have just bought a player and do not have the experience or knowledge to get anywhere near the potential from it, you can't buy experience on using skill points.

I still get the same questions from noobs as the same questions that troubled me when I was new to the game. This is a clear indication that nothing has really changed. What seems easy & obvious to a vet can seem perplexing to a new player.