EVE General Discussion

lol..... try 9 monitors, 7 for EVE while having 12 towers and the additional 2 laptops for when i'm not at home and need multiple computers. I program for the US DoD.... I would never have a setup that small or laughable.... although I like the shirt, I would wear it outside the entire storm trooper outfit, not just wear the helmet.

As a vet, I understand that there is a concept known as Skill Caps which negates older player advantges.

How could idiots possibly ruin your game ? They are idiots that simple fact should give you tremendous advantage.

Or am i missing something there ?

I was typing out point-by-point response to the second post made by the OP, when I realized something: he just needs his ego stroked because Eve is failing to do it. He wants a universe where only the elite with perfect skills, intimate knowledge of game mechanic (ab)uses, and the dedication to a game to set alarms for the sake of skill training are rewarded with success. He's not satisfied with Eve now because lowly newcomers like myself aren't staring up in awe at him. He wants a game where balance and accessibility are eschewed in favor of players who deem themselves "hardcore".

If you're that badly in need of affirmation, go talk to yourself in a mirror. Tell yourself over and over "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggonit, people like me." Nevermind that the last part is a lie--people don't care for arrogant pricks. The rest of us are here to play a game, not make it a way of life.

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This says everything you need to know about this guy.

And then they can be broken. Which is what happened.

Also, OP is refering to the advantage gained from an artificial monopoly (only a limited number of BPOs ever), which is hardly capitalist in that no one (or very few) can ever challenge that monopoly.

that's right... it's not capitalist... I'm not complaining about a lack of a capitalistic ecconomy, I'm complaining that it's not even possible to have an effective monopoly in the game period. I made my isk and 'power' in game through being able to manipulate multiple monopolies in over 80% of literally ALL regions. the others who were like me have quit EVE, their max researched t2 BPO collections forever gone in the wind. I have quite a few t2 bpos, one of them being a 'max researched' mackinaw bpo that I stole out of a wreck before the 'official' looter could get it in a raid that the old GoonSwarm did way way way back in the day. Considering the fact that I had indy alts, also had various toons in VENOM at the time (alt alliance of the old GoonSwarm) etc... when it was found out no one really cared... I was assisting them in the attempt to monopolize things and prevent others from obtaining the same.

I am complaining that CCP has removed the effectiveness of certain aspetcs out of the game, to make it new player friendly, which I'm not entirely agaist, as it does provide a more challenging aspect to the game in some ways.... however I am 100% against the WoW mentality comeing to EVE, and then the dev's and GM's catering to that mentality and making it easier to get into more advanced ships by lessening skill point requirements, giving everyone the effectiveness of having all 11 learning skills, then removing said skills from the game, nerfing the elite ships that take forever to get into.... etc.

considering that I 'own' 7 active accounts, pay for them yearly, that's over 700 dollars a year I spend on EVE. I have had 7 active accounts since 2006, with different ones being older, with the oldest being started in feb of 04. from 2006 to present, with a low estimate of 700 dollars a year I have spent over 4200 USD on my subscriptions, adding a few more hundred for a low estimate, and adding about another 750 to 1K or more for the other accounts that were made before that. What do I get out of investing my time and money that I work hard to obtain in RL to spend on a game such as this? I get nerfed, my playing style gets taken away, I lose friends that don't like it being done (as they quit EVE) and I effectively have drasticly less to do along the lines of how I play. I also get no new ships that add onto the skill types I have (minus the orca and rorq for industry) as there are not any more skill heavy ships being brought into game deliberately. see, I'm not 100% against the nerfs done, I am somewhat, but not 100%.... but CCP doesn't come up with anything heavy skill intense for the older guys to get into.... they just come up with more lower skill required things to get into.... while making them just as effective if not more effective as the ships the older players spent years training for. for the past 5 and a half years I have not had anything I've said 'ooh! gotta train this and this and this and this and this up to fly (insert skill heavy ship here)' while adding up everything and seeing that for that specific ship it would take over a year to skill up for. no, I do not fly a titan, nor do I want to since they don't have AOE DD's anymore. I have a Wyvern Pilot that I sold the wyvern off of... and still have a Nyx on my Nyx pilot, they have the various support skills all at 5. My nighthawk pilot has all it's skills at 5, and has moved into the vastly easier to train for Tengu (while also training for a loki and Broadsword as well) getting all the various support skills up to 5 as well.... and it took less time to do all of those than to get into that nighthawk and train the nighthawk's support skills to 5.

someone made a claim I hadn't made valid points to state that EVE is WoWifying... in WoW, everyone has the ability to get on equal footing within a short amount of time. I've said various things on how new players and idiots can get on similar footing in less time than the older players have taken in different parts of my posts over my posts in this topic. if you haven't seen them yet it's because you haven't read my posts yet.

also, considering that EVE is a time based skill allocation and not an event based skill allocation, shouldn't it just be obvious that with that theory the older players should have advantages over 1 and 2 year old toons? even with effective skill caps at 5, CCP has broken the purpose of putting time into skills by giving newer players ships that don't take anywhere near as long to train for that have equal or more power than the ships the older players trained for that took forever to obtain. and yes, the older players can get in these new ships, but that's not the point. that's actually the problem.

also, to the guy who accused me of being an infadelic bob member... I've stated I was in the original GS with support accounts in VENOM, and having spy accounts in the SC. you need to learn to read.

Actually he said - "you 'sound' like some ex-BOB guy man"

I agree with what you are saying about the command ships, having invested virtually the last year and half in them and still a t3, which took no time at all to train for, wtfpwns them at most things. annoying.

It sounds to me like you burnt out all your options by overdoing things man.

finally, someone to post something along the lines of what I'm trying to get at. I'm not trying to get at the 'I'm uber ur fail bow to me' I'm trying to get at the fact that I have effectively nothing new to do, and that the vast majority of my friends have already left years ago because of that same problem. I have done literally everything in EVE, and honestly am wondering when something that is truly and effectively new will take place. Incursions are just different types of effective missions that allow for both solo (the scout sites I've been soloing for a while) and team efforts depending on which type of site it is. the WH stuff is just a different low sec with some elements of 0.0 such as the option for bubbles and bombs while not allowing 'regular' transportation, yet effectively most of them have static K-Space exits... with a lot of them, including C4 and above, having the 'regular' statics in high sec and then random ones popping up for low sec/0.0. effectively nothing new... since it merely carries current aspects in game into different physical space in game.... while not really allowing for new/different mechanics.

I'm glad Fluffyman made that post. he's realized I wasn't really complaining about me not having the monopolies, but having nothing to replace them with. I kinda don't care if it's a monopoly or not.... but if you take away valid mechanics, nerf everything else... eventually you need to put some new mechanics in to keep those who like a difficult game in game. out of my original group of over 200 individual people, which each had inbetween 2 to 5 accounts each, I am down to 1 'old' friend in game that I can talk to on my level, knowing and going through and doing the same things I've done, and wondering when/if CCP is ever going to come up with a new mechanic, instead of nerfing and taking mechanics and forms of playing away. and after re-reading the thing, Fluffman, you're right... he wasn't accusing me of being an ex-bob, and after re-reading everything I've posted in this topic.... he's right... I kinda do sound like one. people are right. I should take a 'real' and legit break from EVE. lol, I make too much money (in RL) for my own good. everything I do I do full on with full force, and don't hold back in any way. When EVE first came out it was fine, as it did take me years to do stuff. but now that I've effectively done everything (minus titans) I really don't have anything new to do. I just don't want to admit to myself that I know CCP probably won't make anything new... ever, since how they have been setting EVE up to attract players for a few years and then don't attempt to keep the majority of them, instead replacing them with other players that are new.

i don't know.

If this is what it means to win, I'm glad I'm a loser.