Warfare & Tactics

Your line of thinking that Caldari are the main opponent of GalMil and that Gallente are bored is flawed. We are not bored. For many of us, Calmil is just a play thing to occupy our time and FW is just a means to make isk while pvping. Quite a few Gallente groups are occupied with how to go toe-to-toe with the larger pirate groups and we are nowhere near capable of doing that. We have plenty to do and it is mostly irrelevant to us whether Caldari improves or not.

How is Yuri so good at PvP in forums and in game?

I propose a rebellion against Yuri and see how well he does.



He'd probably win but that's beside the point...

I didn't say we can pull it off, I said it was a goal. You are correct in your observations about why Galmil will probably not be able to achieve that goal. We've gone down that path before and failed. I remember Titan humping once and we lost standby dread pilots and a few Vindi's because 5-6 WT frigates jumped into system and those guys reshipped to T1 frigs to go fight them in a novice as they were tired of Titan humping.

It is really, really hard to find the right kind of pilot for a FW corp to be able to go up against Snuff or SC. I tend to classify pilots I come across several buckets:

1. F1 monkey: Poor, low SP character that enjoys blobbing things, thinks they are an awesome PVPer because they fly under an decent FC, and generally won't undock unless that FC has a fleet.

2. Elite F1 monkey: Rich, high SP character that enjoys blobbing things, thinks they are an awesome PVPer because they fly under an extremely talented FC, and generally won't undock unless that talented FC has a fleet.

3. Competent Solo pilot who enjoys fleets: Can stand their ground solo, has good isk flow and med to high SP. Has no problem undocking solo/small gang if nothing else is going on but would prefer a fleet over solo if there is one.

4. Competent Solo pilot who dislikes fleets: Can stand their ground solo, has good isk flow and med to high SP. Has no problem undocking solo/small gang if nothing else is going on and tries to avoid organized fleets if they can.

Everybody starts off in bucket #1. Militia has tons of these types of pilots. As they gain experience, they move to #2 or #3. If the pilot moves to #2, they don't stay in militia long. They want to go join PL or Snuff or Shadow Cartel because they have the better FCs and a solid base of elite F1 monkeys. A few pilots will break away from #2 to move to #3 or #4, but many stay in bucket #2 forever.

Militia tends to have a decent number of the bucket #3 pilots, but again they won't stay in militia long as they prefer fleets to solo/small gang even though they can do solo/small gang. Eventually most of these pilots will grow tired of not having a uber elite FC who plays Eve 20 hours a day to lead them and will leave militia and again go to PL, Snuff, Shadow Cartel, etc.

As a pilot moves to the bitter vet stage, some bucket #3's and a small ground of #2's will fall into bucket #4. Militia pilots that fall into this category will tend to either stay in militia or join a pirate corp to kill everybody in FW lowsec.

At the end of the day, elite pirate corps like Shadow Cartel and Snuffbox are full of #2's and have their fair share of #3 and #4. Militia corps on the other hand are full of #1's, have their fair share of bucket #4's, and have a short window to hold some #3's (before they get tired of waiting and joing the SC/Snuff's of the world).

Maybe someday we will hold enough #3s and be able to cat herd enough #4's into fleet to fight the elite pirate corps, but probably not. We've been trying to do this in QCATS for several years and always fail. It is the cycle of Eve life. FW takes in #1's and turns a good deal of them into #2's, who end up in the corps we are trying to fight. At the same time, we try and recruit #3 and #4 pilots, but every time we do we snag one of these prized pilots we end up losing an equal number of #3 pilot who is tired of waiting for the FW grow into an elite pirate corp.

Andre, the natural conclusion of your analysis is that GalMil has great pilots but lacks great FCs to capitalize on the potential of both #2 and #3 pilots.

I'm 'young' and barely fly T1 cruisers so I really cannot comment on that. At my level, I had enjoyable (and successful) battles with most if not all of the main GalMil FCs.

But if you're right, would the solution be to specifically recruit FCs?

Or we could do what we're trying to do - take the good FCs we've got and grow them organically into something even more epic.

You know you have my derptron.

And my Ishtar too, as soon as CCP allows me to fly it.

it doesnt matter if pilots are "type" 1 2 3 or 69. one you become not-******** everyone is worth pretty much the same in a large fleet.

what matters is how much isk every pilot can and is willing to throw into a fight

qcats can be all diamond league players but that means jack **** when all they bring is a couple of ishtars while every pants-on-head kid from snuff can bring a dread or triage archon if needed

In my experience in the gal/cal warzone I would say the Gals tend to be better organized than the caldari, most likely due to the culture of drama that was fairly predominant in my faction. The drama and politics were the main reason I took a break from the warzone and went to amarr. The grass wasnt any greener and then I had an extended stay with world of tanks.

Now I notice there has been a shift in the Caldari culture and it is for the better. I see the alliances working together more and Im pretty optimistic for the future. Even though Im pessimistic by nature. The good attitudes lately remind me of a couple years back when we made a couple good pushes before dying out in deven/fliet.

To the people like Wil who just ***** and complain about expecting establishment to be there in cal mil for them to just hop on and be successful I say : Pull up your socks and help teach the new guys to be successful. The Gals are effective because when they were pushed they came together instead of throwing their hands up and leaving. Im guilty of taking off too and want to get back in the mix.

We like to shoot things.