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Loot spew graphically is really nice but the mechanic wasn't very good, I would think if they added the loot spew graphic to containers coming out of wrecks it would be a nice look as long as they didn't expire within 30 seconds lol (for anything that doesnt stay inside the wreck that is)

That would be awesome!

I'm entierly in favor of multiple loot nodes spread out on the "board" instead of one boss that you have to find. It would help ease the random (and unfair because you have zero way to avoid that with player skills/knowledge) side of having to find THE boss to get all the loot.

It happened to all of us I think to clear all the board but two or three nodes protected by firewalls... with the boss hiding behind one of these.

I'd suggest you remove the boss entierly and instead spread out multiple loot nodes on the hacking minigame. It would actually reward higher skills beucause you'd have an incentive to push the hacking at the limits of your virus to find as many loot nodes as possible. Way more interesting in my opinion. Of course you'd have a button available to disengage the hack as soon as you open at least one loot node. (or two or three... it could even be dependant on the T1/T2 module and/or an implant)

When you dissengage, you get a reward proportional to how many loot nodes you opened. Could I even dare to suggest that two unused bonuses could equal a bonus loot node?

On an not entierly related topic -but since we're talking about the hacking minigame lets push it forward to improve it :D- why not letting the player get a brief hint of the distance of the closest loot node every time he clears a node? (empty node or kill of an ennemy node). So, say, if I click a node, I'd get a floating "2" for only a second that would indicate that the closest loot node is two "jumps" away.
It would help add a slight element of player skill (here: deduction and memory) instead of just randomly clicking the damn thing...

another possibility would be to have the loot spew depending on your coherence %. if you finished the hack above 50% health, then you get direct access. if you finished under that then you get loot spew.

Ha!
That's fantastic!
Absolutely this+1 good sir.

Could we move discussion of improvements to the Hacking mechanics elsewhere. This thread needs to stay on topic so we can collect feedback about the changes we're making right now.

It's an interesting point about the interaction scheme. I've always felt that a missing element of EVE was interactions with the environment (with consequence). This is especially missing in PVE.

Although I found the loot spew to be frustrating, it was more to do with being forced to do a lot of double clicking as a reward for a successful hack. While I don't think the way it was implemented worked, it did seem like a further iteration of it could be quite interesting. Particularly if it placed more of an emphasis on skilfully manually piloting your ship. I had originally (and optimistically) assumed that the idea of using your ship to directly interact with the environment was part of the concept behind the loot spew.

The idea of there being multiple elements and interactions within exploration sites makes them immediately more interesting than the bulk of PVE currently available in EVE. Reducing the hacking sites to: hack -> reward, is in some ways an improvement, but also still seems a bit too simple. All that aside, I still look forward to seeing the hacking mini-game further iterated on.

[apologies if this is off topic]

Are there any plans to redesign how the hacking mini game works?

Currently it is just a click fest with no real skill or thought required. I can think of one simple change that would make it more engaging...



Sorry didn't see this...

Could you be so kind as to create a feedback thread for us to move the discussion to? After all, no one wants to give feedback if it's just going to be ignored.

Now that loot spew has been removed it's far to easy to drop the valuable from the container ,people will just loot the expensives and let the crap behind them .
"Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get" seems a good philosophy for this activity .Please make Relic and Data container immune to cargo scan .
It'll encourage explorer to clean the whole things before getting to next one .

How does this work? Site stays up only X time after one of the cans has been touched, so it will respawn even if someone just cherry-picked the good stuff?

Basically yes but with a few caveats to deal with edge cases (e.g. someone is still in the site). Things were already working this way previously but when I went through the code there were some cases that hadn't been covered so now it should be a bit more efficient. The knock on effect is that there will be more fresh sites to be found now (and thus more loot) without making it harder to catch and kill Explorers.