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Best Sci-Fi film / Worst Sci-Fi film

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#81 - 2014-05-21 23:35:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Ila Dace wrote:
- The Island Of Doctor Moreau

/me plucks that out of the "bad" category and softly lays in in the "meh" category. P
It only lost $1mil (pre DVD sales and TV runs) Bear
It also got nominated for the Saturn award (sci-fi/horror costume).
A great story, just a meh remake movie. Assuming you are not talking about the 1977 version which was better.
But yeah, definitely for a 100yo H.G. Wells story, the movie didn't come close to expectations.
Anyway, I'd watch it again rather than Ender's Game P


As for the Matrix, the first was the best. The rest were ok, better than meh. But imo, it got a bit cheesy. Can't deny the first was pretty epic though. My spin on it, I'd rather have seen it in more near future rather than distant future. I know there is irony in it, having been stuck in it for so long and things happening over and over; sort of like Dark City, though they lost track of time. But I think it would have been better if the Matrix was set closer to our generation which would have given it a little more shock value.

It had the whole cyberpunk feel going for it, but was just too distant in time to really work for the sequels, cyberpunk is near future. That's why I think the first worked better for it anyway, because it didn't make as much distinction whether it was near future or distant future, so it was more shocking as a story. It's like the whole thing with more pure cyberpunk, it's going to start tomorrow and you are going to be involved, this is your future, get worried. So it becomes more engaging, something eminent that you may experience and probably not survive. The sequels lost that feeling, became distant future and detached from our fears of impending doom and that hope of rescue.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2014-05-22 04:44:44 UTC
Got another terrible movie.

Robot Jox (also known as robo jockeys)
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2014-05-22 06:27:33 UTC
Does the TMNT live action movie count as sci-fi?

BTW, what do you guys think of the Michael Bay reboot?

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Purity by Fire
Purity Tax Haven
#84 - 2014-05-22 06:57:27 UTC
Darnit to many to choose from

Best

Blade runner
Aliens special edition ( you know the ones with the added sentry guns that remind me of baby space sentries Blink)
Star Trek into Darkness

Worst
Oblivion ( cant stand the film my wife actually understood it which means its crap) Big smile

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#85 - 2014-05-22 12:44:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Got another terrible movie.

Robot Jox (also known as robo jockeys)


Don't forget "Solarbabies" Lol

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Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#86 - 2014-05-22 12:48:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Panpher
Best: District 9

Worst: Prometheus
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2014-05-22 13:15:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Did I just miss it or did nobody mention the "Wing Commander" Film as worst? Lol

EDIT: While not a movie, I'd like to mention the starship troopers animated series. That one at least deserves to be mentioned in the hall of fame of the worst sci-fi productions ever. I've managed to watch one whole episode of that before I had cleanse my HDD of that filth. *shudder*

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2014-05-22 14:02:04 UTC
Actually I will admit that Wing Commander was one of my sci-fi guilty pleasure movies. This, along with Timecop, Sliders (TV show), Quantum Leap, and Primer (no one I know, besides myself, likes this movie).

Does Donny Darko count as sci-fi?

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Riyria Twinpeaks
Perkone
Caldari State
#89 - 2014-05-22 14:09:10 UTC
Hey, I just remembered "Barbarella" .. :D
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#90 - 2014-05-22 14:22:19 UTC
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
Hey, I just remembered "Barbarella" .. :D

That and Barb Wire. Lol

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#91 - 2014-05-22 15:26:00 UTC
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
Hey, I just remembered "Barbarella" .. :D



Such amazing psychedelic special effects. Seriously fun movie.

"In Hollywood, more often than not, they're making more kind of traditional films, stories that are understood by people. And the entire story is understood. And they become worried if even for one small moment something happens that is not understood by everyone."

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#92 - 2014-05-22 15:29:46 UTC
Best sharknado.

Worst 2001.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#93 - 2014-05-22 15:33:28 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Best sharknado.

Worst 2001.



Yeah, we believe you. Yup.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2014-05-24 02:59:14 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Did I just miss it or did nobody mention the "Wing Commander" Film as worst? Lol

Webvan wrote:
Worst... UghStraight
Maybe as far as disappointment, Wing Commander. yeah, some peeps will say "but that was great!", but it really flopped pretty badly, and it was bad, and not even making it as a cult classic, and it was bad... and I don't mean good-bad, but just... bad. Sad




Sibyyl wrote:
Actually I will admit that Wing Commander was one of my sci-fi guilty pleasure movies. This, along with Timecop, Sliders (TV show), Quantum Leap, and Primer (no one I know, besides myself, likes this movie).

I never saw the movie but I remember a live action CD-ROM Wing Commander game narrated by Mark Hamill. I never got to play it but I could always hear it coming from the family room computer while I spent hours each day chained to the kitchen sink. Yeah I missed out on a lot of great media during those horrible years, and I knew about all of it being available, just out of reach.

Timecop was pretty great. I have to admit though, that the thing I liked most about it was Mark Hamill. But it also was just a generally higher convention quality than the big budget films we have today--by that I mean that the basic stuff was more realistic, unlike today's movies where everything takes place in a completely different universe where even the most mundane things happen completely differently from real life. I get so tired of those and will prefer some of the most mundane crap over films that insult the intelligence of viewers with Down's Syndrome.

I got into watching Sliders recently. Good show for its time. I've only seen about 8 episodes or so, but I started to get tired of it by that point.

I used to watch Quantum Leap with my dad. I liked the two main characters and I thought they had some real chemistry, but it always bothered me when he'd be someone else and still look like himself. Still a great show. I really should boot it up and start watching again. I never got tired of it, I just joined the military and then my dad died. Cry I guess it'll bring back good memories. Roll

And you can go ahead and add two more to that list of people who liked Primer. My brother Matthew is into indie films with thought-provoking plots, and he finds some rather interesting titles. I really enjoyed that movie and I was just blown away by the work they put into the realism and plausibility, and the depth of the explanations. For a science nerd like me, it really was like coming up for air after holding my breath underwater for the last several years.

Blade Runner was great, as was 2001: A Space Odyssey. I like all of the Next Generation Star Trek movies. Insurrection was originally my favorite, but as I look back I find that both Generations and First Contact are especially memorable, and I didn't like Nemesis when I first watched it but I saw it recently and it clicked a lot better that time. But Voyager was always my favorite series. I really wish we could get some Voyager and Deep Space 9 movies. Yeah, I'm totally a Trekker.

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#95 - 2014-06-02 10:01:15 UTC
This is a tough one as there have been a handful of good science fiction films, few very good and plenty of simply dreadful films.

On the whole my list would look like:

BEST FILM: Stalker

WORST FILM: Liquid Sky


I saw Liquid Sky in a cinema in Antwerp in about '84 and I couldn't believe how bad it was. I think that it's fair to say that nothing that I have seen comes as close to that. I haven't seen Battlefield Earth but I expect that would be a masterpiece in comparison.

Stalker is simply excellent. No, there are no spaceships in there (they've long gone as it happens) but it's a wonderfully made film and a little hard going. And, oh, it's in Russian but that doesn't detract at all.

To the mainstream list. Of the Alien series, which I adore, my favourite is the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3, followed by the orginal then not sure about the ranking of the last two. Slightly less mainstream is Jodie Foster's Contact because the concept of the film is fantastic.

Back to the bottom end of my list. I remember disliking the Trek films, though the last outing of the series is far, far better and puts them into the so-so category. One I remember failing to avoid all the time was the dreadful Enemy Mine which for reason my mate seemed to like. Mind you he was permanently drunk and had one eye so that may have been the reason for that.

2001 headed off this list and, sorry, no. It didn't work as a film for me at all. I have never been a fan of Kubrick and apart from a few iconic moments the film wasn't as good as its reputation. But this is, of course, a subjective opinion. A lot of people won't like my Alien 3 choice because it didn't have Hollywood actors and lots of guns but differeng opinions is the point of all this.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#96 - 2014-06-02 12:59:45 UTC
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
This is a tough one as there have been a handful of good science fiction films, few very good and plenty of simply dreadful films.

On the whole my list would look like:

BEST FILM: Stalker

WORST FILM: Liquid Sky


I saw Liquid Sky in a cinema in Antwerp in about '84 and I couldn't believe how bad it was. I think that it's fair to say that nothing that I have seen comes as close to that. I haven't seen Battlefield Earth but I expect that would be a masterpiece in comparison.

Stalker is simply excellent. No, there are no spaceships in there (they've long gone as it happens) but it's a wonderfully made film and a little hard going. And, oh, it's in Russian but that doesn't detract at all.

To the mainstream list. Of the Alien series, which I adore, my favourite is the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3, followed by the orginal then not sure about the ranking of the last two. Slightly less mainstream is Jodie Foster's Contact because the concept of the film is fantastic.

Back to the bottom end of my list. I remember disliking the Trek films, though the last outing of the series is far, far better and puts them into the so-so category. One I remember failing to avoid all the time was the dreadful Enemy Mine which for reason my mate seemed to like. Mind you he was permanently drunk and had one eye so that may have been the reason for that.

2001 headed off this list and, sorry, no. It didn't work as a film for me at all. I have never been a fan of Kubrick and apart from a few iconic moments the film wasn't as good as its reputation. But this is, of course, a subjective opinion. A lot of people won't like my Alien 3 choice because it didn't have Hollywood actors and lots of guns but differeng opinions is the point of all this.


You liked "Stalker" but not "Liquid Sky" ? Both are kinda similar, in that they are pretty much non-technology based SF.

The audience I saw Alien 3 with mostly walked out at the end, very angry at the badness. I've never experienced anything like it before or since. I mean, people were appalled when Newt and Michael Biehn were offed before the opening credits were done, especially after the long heroic struggle in Aliens. Ugh.

I disagree with your summation of "2001", especially since you don't really outline your complaints at all. You are in a lonely field on that one.

"Enemy Mine" is pleasant enough. Morethe quality of an HBO production than a full on theatrical film, but it works. The original short story won both the Hugo and the Nebula Award. It's a very faithful adaptation.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#97 - 2014-06-02 13:44:32 UTC
The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".

m'kayyyyyy............

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#98 - 2014-06-02 14:20:04 UTC
To be fair, I did say the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3.

If you saw the version shown in the cinema, which sounds like you did, then you're right it was a total mess. The problem lay entirely with Sony who messed around with the script, the writers, gave the first time director no power and generally seemed to go all out to make the worst film of all time.

The treatment of the director was such that he almost stopped directing there and then. But thankfully Fincher didn't as he gave us the wonderful Fight Club next time out.

Compare and contrast with the extended version that was put together by the crew which rebullt the vision that Fincher had and the film is utterly different. For a start the story makes sense. Scenes which were pivotal were restored from the cutting room floor. And there was plenty cut too; half an hour of film had been restored.

As for getting shot of those two characters; well, they had their role in Aliens but with companions Ripley wouldn't have been alone in a gothic nightmare. The supporting characters in Alien 3 were so well drawn and presented that I don't think that there would have been room for Beihn to breathe. In fact apart from the first film's casting the supporting cast in this one was the strongest of the whole series.

The extended version of the film, not the cinematic release, is little appreciated for what it is. The cinematic releae version is, on the other hand, really, really poor and should be left outside to be exposed and feed the wolves.

I know a lot of people think that Aliens is the best of the lot. But it's another Cameron film with high budget and lots of guns. It was fun when I saw it in my mid twenties but now there's nothing there that's of substance. And if one creature can cause that much damage in the first and third films then a planet full of the beasts should have been an impossibility to overcome. It was just an updated version of a John Wayne WW2 film when he and his bunch of ever so gung-ho marines are able to fight off the whole of the Japanese army without breaking sweat.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#99 - 2014-06-02 15:37:38 UTC
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:


I know a lot of people think that Aliens is the best of the lot. But it's another Cameron film with high budget and lots of guns. It was fun when I saw it in my mid twenties but now there's nothing there that's of substance. And if one creature can cause that much damage in the first and third films then a planet full of the beasts should have been an impossibility to overcome.


...which is why they nuked them. It was the only way to be sure.

I became skeptical of Alien 3 before it even lensed, as William Gibson had written an excellent screenplay set on an mining asteroid.....lot's of creepy twist tunnels and no gravity. That wasn't good enough for 20th Fox for whatever reason and they scrapped it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#100 - 2014-06-02 16:55:38 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".

m'kayyyyyy............




Id watch the hell out of that movie if they would have gotten Bill Murray instead of Tom Cruise.

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