Science & Industry

What issues?

Right now, invention beats T2 BPOs except in the smallest of markets. This is because Invention can out produce it.

Adjusting T2 BPOs to have short copy times would lead to a greater output from the T2 BPOs, allowing them to squeeze out invention produced modules by undercutting them. (no invention costs)

NO MORE T2 BPO DISCUSSIONS PRETTY PLEASE

This thread is good. Don't break it.

Greyscale, some thoughts on the new stuff:

* Why half integer ranks on certain modules?

Isn't that messing up the nice clean integer math you seem to be going for? Perhaps I am misunderstanding rank.

* JF production baseline is nearly 70 days now.

This is nearly 3x what it is currently. With an industry 5 character that gets trimmed down only by 20%. Even with one of the new production arrays its' still twice what it is now.

Is this a deliberate choice in terms of time to market as how you were discussing earlier?

JF's are something I only produce rarely so this is one of those "no real skin off my back" issues, but yikes.

* JF invent time is better

32 day baseline, but 16 days in a pos. Still a pretty big change tho!

* Rig timings seem screwy

For example:

Capital rigs invent in 4 hours

This turns into 2 hours in a pos. Current in-pos invent time is 26 hours.

Capital rigs build in about 8 hours. After pos and skills, that's closer to 4 I think. Current baseline for a TE 0 capital rig is 10 hours with skills and pos bonus applied.

I'm having a big of difficulty referencing between the pos timings I know well and the timings you are putting up which are blueprint baselines before bonuses, so things might be odd looking and estimated.

This same idea seems to repeat with large rigs as well. Full disclosure: I pay attention to capital/large because those are what I build. So take what I say with that in mind.

* Have you decided on how to handle invention blueprint ME/TE levels?

This has been discussed a lot but I'm not clear if you settled on an answer.

For example, I own a -4/-4 and a -3/-5 widget BPC - will these get an across-the-board uptick to 0/0? Or the equivalent levels post-patch after a successful invention run with that decryptor?

Also, where do I get a perpetual motion unit?

Imma reply to all the actual blueprint-related content tomorrow or Friday, this is just a post to say "stop talking about T2 BPO stuff or I'll start deleting posts" :)

Greyscale, on further thought, the invented blueprint market for rigs is kinda goofy with exploration drops being 0/0 while invented ones - at best - are -1/-1.

Please leave exploration drops alone, and don't buff them.

Remember, no more neg BPC for anything, so exploration ones may change numbers but prolly not overall materials

Invention is like alchemy! Way to curb overpricing and not the main thing. It should be very dynamic. You go into it for specific mod/ship when it is profitable and move to something else when its not.

If it doesn't, it makes an entire category of exploration loot worthless (and there's already enough worthless BPCs from exploration). With invention we can get exactly what rig BPCs we want. With exploration there's a chance of something useful and a chance for something worthless (like BPCs for a low-volume, barely used rig).

There is some variance in the capital ship component BPO's

most are at 60 while a few are at 4.

these are at 60:

Capital Propulsion Engine Blueprint
Capital Turret Hardpoint Blueprint
Capital Sensor Cluster Blueprint
Capital Armor Plates Blueprint
Capital Capacitor Battery Blueprint
Capital Power Generator Blueprint
Capital Shield Emitter Blueprint
Capital Jump Drive Blueprint
Capital Cargo Bay Blueprint
Capital Drone Bay Blueprint
Capital Computer System Blueprint
Capital Construction Parts Blueprint
Capital Siege Array Blueprint
Capital Launcher Hardpoint Blueprint

while these are at 4:

Capital Doomsday Weapon Mount Blueprint
Capital Ship Maintenance Bay Blueprint
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay Blueprint
Capital Jump Bridge Array Blueprint
Capital Clone Vat Bay Blueprint