Missions & Complexes

Stoicfaux originally generated the numbers with a garde II snipe Ishtar, which is no longer even a practical strategy due to the changes in Ishtar bonus, stacking penalty on scope chips and the scope chips vs warp speed rig issue.

I'd expect your cynabal is about 300 dps down on what is required to challenge the mach, and lacks reach that the Ishtar and the mach have (since large autos kinda work with tracking comps but meds really don't).

If I was going to try to match the mach with a cruiser, it would be this.

[Ishtar L3 "all damage mod theory"]

4x 200mm railgun II (spike, navy thorium, navy antimatter)

1x corelum c-type 10mn microwarp drive
1x cap recharger II
1x medium shield booster II
1x dread gurista adaptive invulnerability field.
1x federal navy omnidirectional tracking link

4x drone damage amplifier II
1x federation navy magnetic field stabilizer

1x Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
1x Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II

5x garde II
5x warden II
5x heavies or lights - you'll have to experiment.

implants
WS-615
MR-705
MH-805
SS-905

I don't require fitting implants to fit it.

1036 dps at 14km
943 dps at 47km
650-600 dps 60km - 80km
0 dps 81km, move up on the mwd.

1663 max speed, 4.7au warp, 7.8s align

It will run either booster or mwd indefinitely but cap out (and also tank badly) if you try run both, and usually you would shoot frigates with guns, and cruisers with drones, coup de grace any cruisers that get into deep structure with guns to save a drone salvo. Move away from drones if you have targets the drones can hit, but have a pesky frigate under the guns and then come back for pickup.

The reason you want to shoot frigates with guns, is because it takes a garde II about 2 seconds to lock a frigate, which means its a 50% reduction of real dps, followed by a tremendous overkill, which is a huge waste of your firepower. It looks like managing the Ishtar damage, and getting the damage out to 1000 if possible and getting to next gates quickly are all key issues for getting anywhere near those mach times.

The other optimization I'd do is buy 2, and put the other one in the usual location where the agent sends me 3 jumps, and I'd use a fully travel speed fit interceptor for the trip to it. its 2 extra warps, but that's a lot of faster warping and aligning. The machs hull budget would allow the Ishtar pilot to do that.

Actually he's right in that it's below 2k, using core probes since they sell for more.

((465,000*10)-1,200,000))/1800=1916.666

Additionally, the entirety of the loot figure comes from a rare drop in Silence the informant. Referencing the ishtar thread we can see that in the past this mission and the drop were less frequently in that run. Unless there is some proof that flying a machariel increases the drop rate to 100% i think it's fair to use the 5/7 drop chance the data shows.

This change drops the loot income down from 22.9m/h to 16.3m/h

Including the isk cost as you should when calculating isk/lp decreases the lp value to 42.9m/h if you use core probes.

I'm a bit fuzzy on why the liquid isk is being converted into hourly rates at a different ratio than the lp and loot are so I'm not touching it. That gives a revised income of 78.3m/h

Minor nit picks to be fair, it is still good income, researching you cash out items and using sell orders could probably see an asset generation above 90m/h however its debatable how much of this should be considered trade income.

As always, great info, Stoic.

Have you ever tried alternate approaches? Your data posts always focus on a ship. What about leveling alts and pulling multiple missions? Reducing travel time by running more missions in the same systems. That sort of thing.

Yeah, but I got you.

I seem to recall reading the upcoming changes and thinking that salvage is about to get nerfed to hell. Am I remembering correctly?

I have always used my shield tanked mach for standings grind.. burns through lvl2 and 3's like no ones business for any faction. Changes will just make it quicker.