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If CCP wants more money then why don't they offer more services?
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Solanine Project
Doomheim
#61 - 2014-05-19 10:56:04 UTC
"If CCP are wants more money, then why don't they offer more services?"

Peasant!
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#62 - 2014-05-19 11:06:59 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:


Like SP buffs for money/plex or bonus remaps for money/plex



CCP has clearly stated EVE will never be a "pay to win" game. You can, however, just buy a character from the bazaar - if you don't want to do that, you'll have to train skills just like the rest of us. Characters for sale are a finite resource, and characters for sale are not RMT - the money goes back into the game, providing the seller with a advantage for selling it - thus keeping something of a balance of power.

Angelique Duchemin wrote:

Or race/bloodline/gender change for money/plex.


This does not make any sense. You can get new clothing, you can get a PLEX and totally change how you look, but changing race? Gender? Bloodline? This makes no sense.

Angelique Duchemin wrote:

People want these things and they have money to throw at you for providing it so why not?


As it would be gamebreaking.

Angelique Duchemin wrote:

Say a 100% SP gain buff for 30 days that cost 2 plex. You can't even argue that it causes any form of imbalance because you can already spend money on plexes. Plexes for isk and then use the isk to buy any 200 million SP character of your choice on the bazaar.


See my comment above re: limited resource vs pay to win.

Angelique Duchemin wrote:

I'd even argue in favour of name changes for money/plex. People argue that a characters history is important in Eve. So add a big red line of text in the employment history that says "Changed name from X to X"


Why?
Solidity Project
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-05-19 11:12:57 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
You can get new clothing
Have you looked at the options??

How can anybody think that a woman can live with these few options?

My wardrobe is basically EMPTY!

And shoes! SHOES!

Only boots and heels! BOOTS and HEELS!

Where are the sandals??


Sexy sandals tied around my ankles, up to just below the knee!


How can people live with this? It's HORRIBLE!
Solanine Project
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-05-19 11:20:04 UTC
Solidity Project wrote:
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
You can get new clothing
Have you looked at the options??

How can anybody think that a woman can live with these few options?

My wardrobe is basically EMPTY!

And shoes! SHOES!

Only boots and heels! BOOTS and HEELS!

Where are the sandals??


Sexy sandals tied around my ankles, up to just below the knee!


How can people live with this? It's HORRIBLE!

Calm down, sister.

We have to live with the fact that we are surrounded by peasants. There's no way around it.
Have hope that one day, we will be offered what we rightfully deserve!
Marsha Mallow
#65 - 2014-05-19 11:47:36 UTC
Solidity Project wrote:
How can anybody think that a woman can live with these few options?

We play barbie with ourselves irl instead, and not-in-space-slapper. Pod goo would be murder on your hair anyway. Want to borrow some eyeliner?

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Solidity Project
Doomheim
#66 - 2014-05-19 12:22:14 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Solidity Project wrote:
How can anybody think that a woman can live with these few options?

We play barbie with ourselves irl instead, and not-in-space-slapper. Pod goo would be murder on your hair anyway. Want to borrow some eyeliner?
Sure!
As soon as you learn how to apply your makeup properly!
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-05-19 14:02:10 UTC
I've offered to give advice on makeup before but for some reason people always burst into laughter and think it's some kind of subtle joke. I have no idea why that is..

As for shoes you know Gally is the master race because of our sporty women's running shoe collection? I sure think so. And no amount of PLEX will make them available for these Achuran vixens who think they have it so good.. \o/

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Solecist Project
#68 - 2014-05-19 14:10:11 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
I've offered to give advice on makeup before but for some reason people always burst into laughter and think it's some kind of subtle joke. I have no idea why that is..

As for shoes you know Gally is the master race because of our sporty women's running shoe collection? I sure think so. And no amount of PLEX will make them available for these Achuran vixens who think they have it so good.. \o/

My sis will be seriously pissed if she reads that... :/

But she won't touch you, else I'll destroy her. *smiles* (:

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Elmonky
Alternative Royal Dynamics
GameTheory
#69 - 2014-05-19 14:59:48 UTC
Posting in a *please insert win button* thread.


I'm warming my hands on the flames of rage.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#70 - 2014-05-19 15:20:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
People want these things and they have money to throw at you for providing it so why not?
Because most, if not all of them are game-breakingly bad ideas.


they seem to work fine in other games.

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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-05-19 15:28:01 UTC
I agree!!! A Happy Ending for everyoneBig smile

Wait.... OP wants a P2Win???

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#72 - 2014-05-19 15:54:20 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
People want these things and they have money to throw at you for providing it so why not?
Because most, if not all of them are game-breakingly bad ideas.


they seem to work fine in other games.
Eve is not other games Roll which is why some of us play it.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-05-19 16:01:20 UTC
I'd gladly pay for character renames with your old name in the employment history or whatever.... once.

but as for the rest? Aww HAYUL naw.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#74 - 2014-05-19 16:02:18 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
People want these things and they have money to throw at you for providing it so why not?
Because most, if not all of them are game-breakingly bad ideas.


they seem to work fine in other games.
Eve is not other games Roll which is why some of us play it.


Some people seem to think that I am anti-change when it comes to new content in EVE. This post proves it's not true, because I really do think CCP should make CONCORD assemble an in-game firing squad for any character who posts on the forums about how well crappy things work in other games.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#75 - 2014-05-19 16:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jenn aSide wrote:
Some people seem to think that I am anti-change when it comes to new content in EVE. This post proves it's not true, because I really do think CCP should make CONCORD assemble an in-game firing squad for any character who posts on the forums about how well crappy things work in other games.
Now that is something I would pay ISK for.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#76 - 2014-05-19 19:22:45 UTC
Solidity Project wrote:


Where are the sandals??


Sexy sandals tied around my ankles, up to just below the knee!


How can people live with this? It's HORRIBLE!


What's horrible is the foot modeling on our avatars. Only Skyrim is worse. It's a blessing that we don't have sandals.

Mr Epeen Cool
Reiisha
#77 - 2014-05-19 19:35:27 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Black Panpher wrote:
There is a massive difference between people buying high SP chars on the bazaar and devaluing SP by adding boosters.
What a stupid comparison. -.-



How so? How is 40 million SP in a year game breaking but 200 million SP in a day not?


The latter doesn't create two characters with 200m at the same time.

Logic, have you heard of it?

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#78 - 2014-05-19 19:41:30 UTC
I couldn't even make it past the first line of the op without banging my head on my desk.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#79 - 2014-05-19 21:01:48 UTC
BJ for Plex!

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2014-05-19 21:58:23 UTC
well if your ideas weren't pay to win you might have more luck convincing people..
but paying for cash for buffs is a slippery slope to making the game less attractive.
buying a name changes is not a good idea either.

Ship paint jobs are coming.. they will likely make some cash from these purchases.

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