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[Kronos] Freighters and Jump Freighters Rebalance [Updated]

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Feffri
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#1061 - 2014-05-19 07:52:45 UTC
Posting to agree with comments made from before these changes are horrible and not well thought out at all. Fozzie take the weekends off as you obviously don't do your best thinking on weekends.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#1062 - 2014-05-19 07:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Steijn
I must be 1 step away from the funny farm when i think that a Goons ideas for how to make freighters configurable, is far better than what CCP suggest..

Now you just need to get CCP to listen Myanna.
Oxide Ammar
#1063 - 2014-05-19 07:59:31 UTC
If these changes are going through, I highly suggest to punish Fozzie of manually piloting freighter for 35 jumps a day for 1 week with these modified freighters... soul crushing punishment. Lol

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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#1064 - 2014-05-19 08:00:39 UTC
Dear CCP Fozzie,


The number one reason for using (Jump) Freighters is hauling stuff about across space.

When you lower the base cargo capacity of all (Jump) Freighters by between 27 and 30%,

And then add the use of Rigs to compensate for the ability to haul stuff about across space,


You should lower the total ship material costs (including the extra materials pre-Kronos) by between 27 and 30%.


This reflects the base cost of the ship versus the purpose of the ship it is mainly build or bought for. Cool

The cost to build or buy a (Jump) Freighter will be higher after Kronos because of the need to add Rigs on them,

Which are permanent ship modifications that will be destroyed if they are removed or if the ship is repackaged.


Regards, a Freelancer

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Lara Divinity
Pidgeon Cartel
#1065 - 2014-05-19 08:07:35 UTC
ELWhappo Sanchez wrote:
3 low slots would work out a lot better than rigs that's for sure.
I sold my freighter till all this blows over.
if rigs get put in and the changes posted by fozzie go through I won't be buying another one.
still a big hit to cargo space as it is I would have lost 350km3 out of my 850km3 if I wanted the same tank and align time.
so my orcas are a better choice for hs hauling in the future.


damm right they are a better choice cheaper tougher faster more versatile and good enuff for hsinstead of spending billions on a crappy freighter buy 4 orcas
ehp on the orca is like twice the amount of a freighter when fitted right


is it an airplane ...is it a submarine oh no its a nerfed freighter from eve online goin to the trashbin
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#1066 - 2014-05-19 08:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Aerissa Nolen wrote:
I've been working on a web tool to help wrap my head around these changes. Fairly limited right now but gets some basic info across. Works in IGB as well, does not require trust.

http://xyjax.com/optimizer_kronos/index.html


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Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#1067 - 2014-05-19 08:29:26 UTC
Maybe a bit off-topic and will probably get me a lot of hate but here it goes:

Whatever happened to "Adapt or Die"?

"back in the day" it was among the first things I learned o.O
Lara Divinity
Pidgeon Cartel
#1068 - 2014-05-19 08:32:22 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Maybe a bit off-topic and will probably get me a lot of hate but here it goes:

Whatever happened to "Adapt or Die"?

"back in the day" it was among the first things I learned o.O



it tuned to just die already adapting got nerfed
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1069 - 2014-05-19 08:32:31 UTC
Feffri wrote:
Posting to agree with comments made from before these changes are horrible and not well thought out at all. Fozzie take the weekends off as you obviously don't do your best thinking on weekends.


Actually the changes are infact rather well thought out. The problem here is adding the rigs means these nerfs have to happen to keep the ships balanced and CCP are only adding the rigs because of an endless train of people asking for rigs over the last 2 years.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#1070 - 2014-05-19 08:33:34 UTC
It might be more sensible to keep the stats as they are, and add the rig slots. I can't see any negative effects of faster, bigger, or tankier freighters tbh.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1071 - 2014-05-19 08:33:57 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Maybe a bit off-topic and will probably get me a lot of hate but here it goes:

Whatever happened to "Adapt or Die"?

"back in the day" it was among the first things I learned o.O


I have been expecting these changes for years now, it sucks but as always I have a plan.
Dave Stark
#1072 - 2014-05-19 08:36:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I have a plan.

hauling in megathrons?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1073 - 2014-05-19 08:38:29 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I have a plan.

hauling in megathrons?


If only...
Moloney
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1074 - 2014-05-19 08:46:09 UTC
Get you pants off your head and stop this nerf!

Less cargo, slower, less hp pick 1 to return to normal at a cost!? WTF!!!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1075 - 2014-05-19 08:57:36 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Get you pants off your head and stop this nerf!

Less cargo, slower, less hp pick 1 to return to normal at a cost!? WTF!!!


Welcome to more choice!
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#1076 - 2014-05-19 09:02:11 UTC
I love how absolutely angry people are when they get both what they asked for and what was coming at the same time.
Lara Divinity
Pidgeon Cartel
#1077 - 2014-05-19 09:15:48 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
I love how absolutely angry people are when they get both what they asked for and what was coming at the same time.


i never asked for anything but then again im only a 9month old player without a giant alliance or corporation
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#1078 - 2014-05-19 09:21:33 UTC
Lara Divinity wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
I love how absolutely angry people are when they get both what they asked for and what was coming at the same time.


i never asked for anything but then again im only a 9month old player without a giant alliance or corporation


It wasn't players in giant player alliances and corporations that asked for this; mostly clueless clowns in NPC corps crying that they needed to fit rigs and mods to their freighters.

Just about every voice of reason on these forums told them that CCP was not going to give freighters fittings without taking something away.

Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. Now the needy NPC haulers are somehow surprised, after they had been warned repeatedly to beware what they were asking CCP to do.
Boomer Zedroid
Treasure Seekers Society
#1079 - 2014-05-19 09:31:38 UTC
Don't be an idiot; do not deploy this change with Kronos.

If you need something in its place, lick your keyboard for 5 minutes and you will have produced a more sensible contribution to the game.
Lara Divinity
Pidgeon Cartel
#1080 - 2014-05-19 09:32:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lara Divinity
nerf it all fck the game up n make it free to play while ur at it