Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Is that a subtle backhand to CCP? "If you're gonna **** up freighters, you may as well do it to pods/shuttles rabble rabble"

let's face it, an ehp nerf and a cargo nerf would be irrelevant to shuttles, so small rigs for speed would be a no brainer and a straight buff.

probably the only case where this type of change would be wanted.

i like that you're ambitious, but i think bumping freighters in 1 high sec system isn't likely to cause a shutdown of industry.

Are you trying to say that you can't kill a freighter in a 0.5 system with around 10 perfect cata pilots? LOL

Thanks for confirming that your reading comprehension is indeed terrible, I said that SINCE flying a freighter is tedious, dull and boring (see that's a game design flaw) it's harder to rely on other people, in the same way that people use solocorps for industry because it's **** easy to steal bpos from a pos/hangar, this has nothing to do with your "moral" or what you think people should do, it's all about the inherent bad design of some part of eve.

Is it too hard to understand? I wish I could explain stuff by making you press f1
And by the way, nice projecting I never lost a freighter and don't live in hs, even tho I use an alt to dodge the fw/concord mechanics (god bless metagaming, imirite guys).

No need to be mad because I'm pointing out that your baby-tier risk averse "pvp" should go.

tl;dr : buff freighters to make it impossible to suicide them in a small fleet that cost like 200m and is easy as **** to setup (see I'm ok with taloses), give a tanking malus to autopilot ships

Regarding industry changes across the board it did appear initially that gankers were getting a nerf. I'm thinking more in terms of changes to mining vessels with that statement.

But from other aspects with the increase to signature radius on POS towers and 'outside' POS defences and now potentially less survivability for freighters if they wish to keep similar cargo holds I've changed my mind.

On balance it seems to be an unnecessary and bad change still. Would be better to leave freighters & jump freighters where they are presently.

I have to test this on SISI, but I'm pretty sure that I can bounce on 4-5 freighters at once preventing them to warp away. If more than 2-3 people do this, they could completely shut down a choke point as Uedama. It would be hilarious to do the bumping with a Prospect.

At least if they want to to nerf cargo holds for freighters and JF they should look into material list of T2 rigs because they cost arm and leg to buy these. 2 x T2 cargo hold rigs worth 1.4 bill in Jita that means I'm buying another freighter to put it in my freighter so I get my old freighter back....Brilliant !

I don't think these changes will do much to nerf the big blue donut, but small PvP corps based out of NPC nullsec will be faced with higher operational costs.

it was good ... and now it will be tragic.
GJ CCP ....
easily guess that, not you fly those ships

Hi, now your changing freighters could you also look at the current situation of bumping freighters.

What i mean by this is when a 100mn stabber or mach just bumps a freighter 100k of gate the freighter pilot can not do any action against them can not log or they get pointed by a rookie ship alt with no skill points and nothing to lose, which keeps them aggressed they can keep them there all day till they either gank them or ransom them.


I feel this is completely unfair in the eve universe as there is 0 counter play there is nothing you can do in this situation other then die. What i would like to see is the the bumping char's go flashy after bumping for so long this way there is counter play the freighter pilot can get asssistance and they risk their shiny ships that just bump people.