Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There is nothing wrong with EVE in general, it just I can't be satisfied with just competing and blowing up things for the sake of it. I want to create things, or be a part of some great initiative struggling to create something, but in EVE you can only create social communities, and moslty to fight others such communities - and this is what I actually don't intrested enough into. EVE lacks some purely constructive paths, like path of true scientist, or artisan of sort (it can be played with some metagaming, but occasions are rare and it's not so fun as it could be if supported by game mechanics); even space explorers became simple resource gatherers for war machine, and manufacturers just needed only to serve its needs.

I can't fight a war for some meaningless part of space, or only for glory, I need to have some affection to the place I stand for. But I can't have it because all the places in EVE are barely distinguishable, I can't call any of them "my home". You can't design your space, you can't find here some little things you like and which can't be found somewhere else (aside from purely numerical, like isk/hour, and amounts expensive moon goo ) - it's just totaly generic.

I'm staying in EVE mostly hoping that some day CCP will deliver such experince, that WiS isn't dead, that we some day will land on planets some way or another. I have nowhere to go, 'cause I lost interest in mmos long time ago, EVE is only exception, because it still bring some hope to this industry. Thats why I just rat and wait

We heard in the fanfest presentation that only 10% of the paying players turn to "diverse play", 50% quits soon and 40% are just "leveling up their Raven". Obviously I cannot offer a serious fix for that, as addressing this issue needs complete, strategic level changes.

However I can offer a simple band-aid that will not fix the problem, but slows the bleeding of players. How? It doesn't take that much time to level up that Raven into a faction-fit Golem. After that, the solo player either quits or keeps upgrading the ship stupidly until he gets ganked and quits.

My suggestion is giving him something that takes a year or more to get: a supercarrier or titan.

These supers would be modifications and reskins of the original ones, called "Imperial issue Avatar" for example. Their largest modification would be no jump drive. Since supers can't take gates, this would lock them to the system they are built in. They would lose EWAR immunity, so their PvP value would be zero (an Ibis could tackle and disable one, literally), they would be exclusively a large status symbol for PvE players. While they would have some PvE use, it would be totally cost-ineffective, so the owner couldn't print ISK.

The highsec supercarriers (beside losing their jump ability and EWAR immunity) would be modified to be able to use normal drones, making them an extremely expensive mission boat. Since they can't dock, the user would need an alt to pick up and return the mission, making this a very dumb - but stylish - way of missioning.

The highsec titans would gain the ability to fit strip miners and a 100000 m3 ore bay. Their mining bonuses would be equal to the Mackinaw, so their 6 turrets would let them mine like 3 Macks. As a Leviathan has no turret hardpoints, it would get Rorqual-equal bonuses for mining links. Since they can't dock, they are bound to a second hauler account and they could only mine in one system, so they wouldn't make anyone rich. But hey, look at me, I'm mining in a titan!

These ships would make a solo PvE player busy and happy for a year or more until he gets it. He will probably quit after that, but EVE still won X month of subscription. And hey, some of them might even do something dumb like getting into limited engagement or keep it in a wardeccable corp. Or better: he learns that there is more in EVE than leveling your Raven.

They could be built like outposts. A pilot drops an "egg", a structure launched for himself which can only be attacked in war like POCOs, (you can't wardec an NPC corp) and has multi-million HP. Then he freights the capital components and BPC into its hold and starts building. After a month, the build is complete, he flies there in a pod, clicks "activate ship" and he is in his very new super.

That's insane bro. You don't really dig what the game is now, but maybe ...ONE DAY...it will be something you like so you basically 'endure' it as it is now.

That makes zero sense. You only get one (real) life, you are wasting precious time playing a game you don't like hopping that it will become something you do like (it won't btw, the core game players in this game are more like me and Velicitia than you ie people who like EVE for what it is). You could be playing any number of other games (in the time you spend on EVE) that would bring you actual enjoyment and where you'd actually fit in with the community.

It's your life/time, just saying that what you posted is completely wacky IMO

That's insane bro. You don't really dig what the game is now, but maybe ...ONE DAY...it will be something you like so you basically 'endure' it as it is now?

That makes zero sense.

OK ... running locators then.

The reason I still stay is that there are some signs bringing hope that this uniform core gameplay one day will be expanded to something more rich and diverse.
No, you can't. That would be totally ungratefull to devoid you of incentive to find new friends and thrilling PvP engagments.

Guys. Does your discussion have any connection with the topic of this thread (the highsec supers and the "give them goals")?

Guys. Does your discussion have any connection with the topic of this thread (the highsec supers and the "give them goals")?

You should probably rework how you relate to people and the way you wish to accomplish you interpersonal goals

Only intelligent counterarguments would affect dev decision.