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Battleships and their purpose
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0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#21 - 2014-05-25 14:02:21 UTC  |  Edited by: 0rch1d
Do note that if BSes did everything well that Maeltstome listed as a weakness, they'd be overpowered, or at least you'd hear screams to that effect.

In my view, they're *really* good at making MONEY. If you run missions (Lvl 4s), a BS will at some point be your main breadwinner, and will always remain particularly useful for that. Other ships (in the hands of a skilled pilot) might do better in terms of ISK/hour, but rarely - if ever - in a way as low-effort as you'd be able to manage in a BS, particularly with lower skills.

Yes, it's rather odd that they'd be less useful for PVP (though they can still pull that off in the right role) - for a variety of reasons that at least in the world of EVE *do* make sense - but you won't hear a whole lotta complaints when they're pulling in the iskies on the regular.
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#22 - 2014-05-25 19:12:24 UTC
0rch1d wrote:
Do note that if BSes did everything well that Maeltstome listed as a weakness, they'd be overpowered, or at least you'd hear screams to that effect.

In my view, they're *really* good at making MONEY. If you run missions (Lvl 4s), a BS will at some point be your main breadwinner, and will always remain particularly useful for that. Other ships (in the hands of a skilled pilot) might do better in terms of ISK/hour, but rarely - if ever - in a way as low-effort as you'd be able to manage in a BS, particularly with lower skills.

Yes, it's rather odd that they'd be less useful for PVP (though they can still pull that off in the right role) - for a variety of reasons that at least in the world of EVE *do* make sense - but you won't hear a whole lotta complaints when they're pulling in the iskies on the regular.


Except that Battleships aren't bad at PVP, they're just bad when they aren't properly supported. Unfortunately for solo/small gang enthusiasts, to properly support a battleship/group of battleships you're looking at quite a large number of support ships (logi, EWar, painters/webbers/scrammers/general tacklers, bubblers).
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#23 - 2014-05-27 11:11:50 UTC
I used to hate that BS's could web a frigate to a standstill and then 1-shot it. but we've arrived at a totally different place now.

You can Neut a frig to 0 cap, Scram i t and Web it. It's Orbit will still out-track your guns. At this point a flight of warriors or hammerheads will tear it apart, but any AB frig with a small nos will get out of tackle range.

It's a tough problem to solve. Without making BS the linear endgame of the sub-cap PVP world it's hard to make them more effective against frigs and such.

I will say this though: Battleships can wreck 5+ cruisers in a straight fight. It massively depends on circumstances though, and people with E-War can cause you huge issues.
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