Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Are there certain things we can do to make the report easier to process?

Restriction and prevention are not the same thing, but they are both negative. There is no reason any rule biding player should not have access to communicate with the community or CCP with the same means another rule biding player has save for positions like the CSM where they confide information which they are not yet prepared to share with all users.

There is also no reason to segregate discussion regarding the game with our peers. CCP has on many occasions stated that they look at the forums even without solicitation of feedback or direct response. As such, unless this practice has been stopped, it is further restrictive of the interaction capacity for any individual without full board access.

Furthermore this saddles upon ISD the responsibility of vetting all manner of the inevitable off topic posts that all the affected players would have to use a small subset of forums to discuss subjects which will frequently fall outside of those forum subsections.

Personally, I'm not joining a corp to have a discussion about a ship fit or about a market tactic. I'm not going to have my in game decisions held hostage over my ability to discuss certain topics. All it means is that a new character with no actual gameplay will be born, a character with no means of being held accountable for their words. This is not that character, this character actually logs in and flies ships, that one will not and will be purely immune from any backlash it's words will bring.

and the funny thing is his alliance has some of the worst crap posters in eve. I could see this idea if you know....goons and such were posting quality stuff. However a quick tour to the cesspit known as CAOD shows, as always, even in forums where NPC cannot post the quality does not improve in anyway.


After real player corps can clean up their memberships postings maybe we can put this on the table. Till then, I see no difference from "real corp" posting or npc corp posting that is bad. Crap is crap. Oh nose someone is hiding on an alt....No crap. With an iffy war dec mechanic or too many rage lords in this game who take it way too damn serious its needed. Lets look at goons (OP's home crew).

Lets looks at Mittens its leader. Lets look at mittens getting mega levels of stupid over 1 damn bear to the point he says he wants him ganked until he offs himself. Lets look at Mittens not adding the obligatory "in game" to make this written off. lets see mittens kicked from CSM and banned for a bit. Then some wonder why people post from NPC corps.

No, I didn't ask you to make any kind of sandwich. I can make my own, thank you.

I asked not to use choices and consequences cliche because it's a bullshit. And it's a bullshit because at certain level choices and consequences are driving features of EVERY game, tic-tac-toe, WoW or HKO included, while on another level there are no meaningful consequences of some choices present in EVE Online. Or prove me wrong and tell me please what was the worst, to you, thing a single individual or a small corp did to CFC?


Sorry, this wasn't my question. My question was if you feel entitled to be able to put your wrath on anyone playing EVE? This question is about if anyone with enough power, however measured, should be able to effectively silence those who do not agree with them?

These questions border with right to anonymity and freedom of speech.

Anonymity is what you already enjoy. Apart from your character's name and fancy avatar there's nothing I know about you. CCP knows your email and if you buy PLEX for ISK and didn't run for CSM then the story end here. And it's for very good reasons. Nobody, myself included, would like some psycho to call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggers, who'll go to work on certain dude here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch, just to teach him what choices and consequences are all about in real life.(*)

And yet you want to deny similar level of protection within a game? How quaint.

With freedom of speech there goes right not to listen. You can choose not to read posts/threads/forums you don't like. And personal ignore list is nice tool helping with that.

On the other hand, ISD/CCP have judgement and executive power to keep discussions as clean as possible. With your proposal you want to have part of this power. Even if it turned out it doesn't hurt the game as a whole it is still something I don't like. And do not support.

(*) Before anyone knee-jerks, it's not a threat, it's just paraphrased quote from Pulp Fiction.

Why join a corp, create a your corp for your own characters.

Why do you feel the need to hide in a NPC Corp?

Not sure if it would solve the problem. One can always create an account just for trolling. Those oldest and most skilled players could surely afford an extra PLEX from time to time.

+1 for the Corp/alliance level ignore,
banning npc toons from most of the forums seems a little heavy handed on newer players (and trivial for an older one to circumvent).

La Nariz's objective Is a good one (assuming it isn't a wildly inept troll).

I love marshas Ballgag wall of shame idea,
it would be both hilarious and help clarify for other posters what the line actually lies.

what? if u rly want to cleanse the forum better restrict goons from posting

Utter rubbish.

Do you think a large null sec entity is going to go to war with a few guys in a HS corp because they posted something they did not agree with on the forums

Seriously?

You know, so what if they did? If a entity such as goons war decc'ed a small HS Corp for the sole reason they dared to disagree with them on a forum post they would be laugh at, scorned, mocked and generally have the **** taken out of them forever and a day.

On top of that it would just mean everybody and their dog would be able to jump on the side of the HS corp as allies.

The simple fact is NPC corps do not advance / help / progress this game in any way shape or form.

If anything they NPC corp detract from the game, they make the game worse.

The idea is for *anyone* to be able to retaliate, not just a handful of people.

It's also worth noting (for the benefit of the "OMG, not whant consequences" crowd) that Doomsdale Little has exactly 1 loss this year, and that was only an MTU. Given the amount of nonsense he spews all over the forum, together with the fact that he's not in an NPC corp (and therefore wouldn't be prevented from posting under the proposed change), we'd hardly be likely to see a massive increase in people being exploded for stupid posts.

Yes, I know 1 example is statistically insignificant. OTOH, he's probably manages to raise the average number of shiptoasts:person quite a bit all on his own.