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13 Disturbing Facts About McDonald’s

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#41 - 2014-05-19 05:09:36 UTC
Baneken wrote:
Right so in regards that maize http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Union says that maize is the sole exception to the rule along with potato to be allowed for commercial use.


It's amusing how you constantly try to pull this thread offtopic with your Greenpeace grudge against genetically modified crops but people just step over you and continue with the topic at hand.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#42 - 2014-05-19 05:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Baneken wrote:
Right so in regards that maize http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Union says that maize is the sole exception to the rule along with potato to be allowed for commercial use.


It's amusing how you constantly try to pull this thread offtopic with your Greenpeace grudge against genetically modified crops but people just step over you and continue with the topic at hand.

meh.. and the topic is "McD's is evil because they're successful" heh. Yeah, greenpeace is standing against GMO's, but they also oppose forest fires, should the rest of us then set fire to the forests? That's far from just some greenpeace issue. There is some level of responsibility we have to preserving the planet, where humans can live, bees too for various reasons. For greenpeace's involvement, well even a broken clock is right twice a day. Smash the clock! hehe

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Yeah, but don't harm the GMO crops for making cheap fast food and all that important stuff uh-huh
That's more of a problem with government over-regulation if anything, messing with farmers and their business. But our EPA has failed, oh yet again, to just hand out passes and hope for the best with little to no real testing over extended periods of time. We are talking about genetic manipulation and a "just trust me" sort of green light to anything they want to do. It's a gamble and one in which there may be no going back no matter the outcome.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-05-19 06:13:12 UTC
Six siblings, including myself. Four of us love Mickey D's, Jack in the Crack, you name it. Two of us (my little sister and I) bring trail mix in ziploc bags so we can avoid restaurant food. We are all more or less in the same shape. The Mc D's fans are well balanced, social, and generally very happy and upbeat. The two people who avoid Mc D's are eccentric, gloomy, and probably mentally unstable.

You be the judge.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-05-19 06:20:21 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
bring trail mix in ziploc bags
Yes/no:

  • carob
  • sunflower seeds
  • dried tomato


My answers:
yes, no, and I wish I could get that in a trail mix

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Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-05-19 06:26:54 UTC
^^ yes ofc.

And dried pinapple and dates (amongst a million other things).

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-05-19 08:25:24 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
here in Portugal, the McD franchises are bound by very, very strict food&health legislation, to the point where its standarts are on par with some upper-range restaurants.
That reminds me: the McDonald's in Civitavecchia, Italy is bomb. I would definitely go there again.

Why can't they be like that here in the USA?

each country has a McDonalds sorta custom-tailored to each country's tastes. while there are some basic stuff that is kinda equal no matter which country you go, you have special menu items that are unique to each country. For example, we have the McBifana and the McPrego here, altho they are nothing like the traditional bifana and prego. Over here, we also have the nutritional value of everyhthing McD has, printed on the package, this is why I can say, if their printing is to be believed, that they do put craploads of salt everywhere, but beyond that, no heath hazard nor "bad food" about, just sometimes too salty.

this also means that they had to tailor their business to each country's legislation, and last time I checked, one of the very few good things we have here in europe is the strict legislation.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#47 - 2014-05-19 09:00:56 UTC
Grimpak wrote:

each country has a McDonalds sorta custom-tailored to each country's tastes.

Yeah, but most places you still cant get McMayo for ur McFries Lol
Not a Mayo packet to be seen...
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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-05-19 09:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Grimpak wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
That reminds me: the McDonald's in Civitavecchia, Italy is bomb. I would definitely go there again.

each country has a McDonalds sorta custom-tailored to each country's tastes. while there are some basic stuff that is kinda equal no matter which country you go, you have special menu items that are unique to each country.
I didn't see any of that. I just got a basic burger and fries. What I didn't expect was it was actually good! It didn't taste horrible like McDonald's food normally does.

Maybe it's just a US thing.

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#49 - 2014-05-19 10:13:42 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Baneken wrote:
Right so in regards that maize http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Union says that maize is the sole exception to the rule along with potato to be allowed for commercial use.


It's amusing how you constantly try to pull this thread offtopic with your Greenpeace grudge against genetically modified crops but people just step over you and continue with the topic at hand.

meh.. and the topic is "McD's is evil because they're successful" heh. Yeah, greenpeace is standing against GMO's, but they also oppose forest fires, should the rest of us then set fire to the forests? That's far from just some greenpeace issue. There is some level of responsibility we have to preserving the planet, where humans can live, bees too for various reasons. For greenpeace's involvement, well even a broken clock is right twice a day. Smash the clock! hehe

Yet another year with my fruit trees nearly bare.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/neonicotinoid-pesticides-ongoing-death-of-the-beas-epa-slapped-with-lawsuit/5334816
Yeah, but don't harm the GMO crops for making cheap fast food and all that important stuff uh-huh
That's more of a problem with government over-regulation if anything, messing with farmers and their business. But our EPA has failed, oh yet again, to just hand out passes and hope for the best with little to no real testing over extended periods of time. We are talking about genetic manipulation and a "just trust me" sort of green light to anything they want to do. It's a gamble and one in which there may be no going back no matter the outcome.


Nothing in the world is as thoroughly tested before it's released to the public as genetically modified food.

Organic crops(unmodified) are so inefficient that you have to use even more pesticides when growing them because they lack resistance to pests and disease.

Without genetic modification of crops we would only have had enough food to feed about 1.5 billion people on this planet. So which of the remaining 4.5 billion is going to volunteer to go away so the rest can eat "moral food"?

If we want to go further with this then we will have to make a separate topic for it.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-05-19 10:18:20 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Organic crops(unmodified) are so inefficient that you have to use even more pesticides when growing them because they lack resistance to pests and disease.

Without genetic modification of crops we would only have had enough food to feed about 1.5 billion people on this planet.

The first part is overwhelmingly true, the second part is overwhelmingly false. The problem with food in this world is lack of farming space in the overpopulated areas or non-arable land, and a difficulty in logistics. The continental US alone can produce enough food to feed the world using bred crops with no genetic modification, with modern farming technology, without draining the soil of nutrients or clearing land for more farms than already exist.

Good luck shipping all that food to Africa.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#51 - 2014-05-19 13:28:22 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:

It's amusing how you constantly try to pull this thread offtopic with your Greenpeace grudge against genetically modified crops but people just step over you and continue with the topic at hand.



For real.

ALL food is genetically modified.

Has been for millions and millions of years, through natural evolution, and human manipulation to increase crop growth, animal health and capabilities, etc.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#52 - 2014-05-19 14:22:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
That reminds me: the McDonald's in Civitavecchia, Italy is bomb. I would definitely go there again.

each country has a McDonalds sorta custom-tailored to each country's tastes. while there are some basic stuff that is kinda equal no matter which country you go, you have special menu items that are unique to each country.
I didn't see any of that. I just got a basic burger and fries. What I didn't expect was it was actually good! It didn't taste horrible like McDonald's food normally does.

Maybe it's just a US thing.
In Europe the "meat" is normally sourced within the economic area that the restaurants are operating in. We have different animal health standards and the animal feed is also different which may well affect the taste.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#53 - 2014-05-19 14:47:41 UTC
McDonald's in America has changed so much since I was a tyke in the 70s.

The food was actually palatable. It was the place to go, and I remember nobody ever objecting, especially for the reasons we do now.

This was pretty much the entirety of the menu.

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#54 - 2014-05-19 15:10:43 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Organic crops(unmodified) are so inefficient that you have to use even more pesticides when growing them because they lack resistance to pests and disease.

Without genetic modification of crops we would only have had enough food to feed about 1.5 billion people on this planet.

The first part is overwhelmingly true, the second part is overwhelmingly false. The problem with food in this world is lack of farming space in the overpopulated areas or non-arable land, and a difficulty in logistics. The continental US alone can produce enough food to feed the world using bred crops with no genetic modification, with modern farming technology, without draining the soil of nutrients or clearing land for more farms than already exist.

Good luck shipping all that food to Africa.



None of that matters when the people who need the food can't afford to pay for the process of producing it anyway.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-05-19 16:58:00 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
In Europe the "meat" is normally sourced within the economic area that the restaurants are operating in. We have different animal health standards and the animal feed is also different which may well affect the taste.


this is also true.


Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Organic crops(unmodified) are so inefficient that you have to use even more pesticides when growing them because they lack resistance to pests and disease.

Without genetic modification of crops we would only have had enough food to feed about 1.5 billion people on this planet.

The first part is overwhelmingly true, the second part is overwhelmingly false. The problem with food in this world is lack of farming space in the overpopulated areas or non-arable land, and a difficulty in logistics. The continental US alone can produce enough food to feed the world using bred crops with no genetic modification, with modern farming technology, without draining the soil of nutrients or clearing land for more farms than already exist.

Good luck shipping all that food to Africa.



well we have been using genetic modification since the times of the Pharaohs, what changed was how we were doing it.

also, while the logistics bit is true, it is also true that you actually need a good portion of land to feed a family of 4 with a varied diet, that or you turn to fishing/hunting. that means that you would need quite the land extension to provide the current population numbers you have. and no, even on extreme cases, cutting down rainforests is silly. rainforest soil is actually very, very poor.

of course you have the hydroponics way but that is extremely expensive for any country that is in constant starvation nowadays.

TL;DR - want to make organic crops worthwhile? cut human population by half.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-05-19 17:09:47 UTC
i'm quite shocked #1 isn't : People eat it.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-05-19 18:18:45 UTC
My very first job right out of High School was working at McDonlald's. I worked all the stations during the course of one year. Suffice to say I haven't eaten McDonald's since High School. I also don't eat Burger King, Wendy's, Arby's, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Domino's... It's all the same S**T.

I do miss the Taco Bell sometimes.....Sad

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-05-19 21:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
In Europe the "meat" is normally sourced within the economic area that the restaurants are operating in. We have different animal health standards and the animal feed is also different which may well affect the taste.

No, you don't understand. It's only McDonald's food here that tastes like that. Many restaurants here have a unique flavor in their food. McDonald's has a lot of unique and very icky flavors in their food. It smells bad, too, and if I eat it for any extended period of time, I begin to feel that I am not getting enough real food and it's like I am filling my gut with paper products. This takes the better portion of a day to accomplish. I usually feel better going hungry than eating that crap.

I have never found such terrible food at any other restaurant, and in the majority of them the meat tastes like the stuff on the market. Home-made beef patties taste much like the beef patties from Arby's, Jack-in-the-Box, Burger King, Carl's Jr., and even Dairy Queen. The patty I had at that McDonald's in Civitavecchia tasted like a patty from back home, just not the McD's patties I am used to. The bun tasted like a bun from back home, just not...yeah you get it. The fries were like Burger King fries, which while not great are a lot better than those nasty spoiled-grease-sticks they call "french fries" at local McDonald's. And this isn't an area phenomenon or a single store. I've eaten food from a variety of these places throughout three US states. It's no different anywhere in the US.

We have standards on what can go into our livestock too. I think McDonald's is adding things to the food to make it taste bad, and that has to be part of their success in the US. Perhaps elsewhere they don't need to add stuff to sell.

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Taco Bell has a very unique array of flavors in their food that some people don't like. But their food actually tastes like food. They add stuff like corn starch, sugar, paprika, and cocoa powder to the food to give it a distinct flavor.

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Dorian Tormak
RBON United
#59 - 2014-05-19 22:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Dorian Tormak
It does kind of seem like McD's is on a bit of another level when it comes to nastiness.

At first I was disagreeing with you and thinking that Burger King and Taco Bell are about the same as McD's but then I thought well... maybe they are similar but the golden arches seems to have something else to it. I also realized they don't have Taco Bells around here, only Taco Time, which is probably more or less the same but who knows...

I don't see why they would add stuff to it to make it taste worse, unless they're adding, like, addictive chemicals into it or something, like they do with cigarettes.

McD's does seem to be a bit addictive. I've had times where I've eaten there a couple days in a row a while back and I would kind of get the urge to just munch out there. It obviously has a lot to do with how accessible it is, like you just pull up, order some bullshit, and then drive off and munch out. But still

How do you know all this **** about what they put in the food at these fast food restaurants anyway? You like an expert or you just did your homework or are you just basing this all on opinion like I'm doing?

Ed- Either way Mcdonalds is ****. I don't really want to eat there ever again

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#60 - 2014-05-19 23:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
I eat their in a pinch when the other options are less desirable.

Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
here in Portugal, the McD franchises are bound by very, very strict food&health legislation, to the point where its standarts are on par with some upper-range restaurants.
That reminds me: the McDonald's in Civitavecchia, Italy is bomb. I would definitely go there again.

Why can't they be like that here in the USA?


Because it would cut their profit margin. McDonalds definitely has policies in practice that are directly related to profit margins. Open up a regular hamburger or cheeseburger and see how much mustard or ketchup is pumped on. Hardly enough to lightly cover the center of one bun. What burns me even more is when you ask for extra ketchup and mustard it is squirting out all along the edges and makes a ridiculous mess.

Once I even ordered a regular hamburger and one with extra ketchup and mustard. I got what I was expecting so I called over the manager and asked him if what I had on the extra burger was really an acceptable delivery considering how little condiments are on their non-special order burger.

He said yes.

I then told him that the extra burger had enough ketchup and mustard to cover 20 burgers done according to protocol. I then asked when is 20 times a condiment considered extra instead of a ridiculously excessive amount. He looked at me like I was from another planet. I then told him that pictures I have been saving over the years, addresses for the worst violators and the names of the active managers will be documented in a message to McD's corporate quality control headquarters. I am still working on the letter.