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Supercarrier changes are hilariously bad
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Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
#161 - 2011-11-18 12:15:39 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
mkint wrote:
Your post would have been better if you were trying to garner the support of your fellow forumites instead of insulting them just for the hell of it.

That said, this (potentially good) topic is now about cheese.



I like velveta cheese for some reason, Its supposed to be cheddar but the way it melts and gooey and the sorts just make it far superior to most other cheddars i know of.

Also american cheese isnt a real cheese is a cheese byproduct.


And you think Velveta is real cheese?

Not saying it isn't delicious, because it is the greatest "cheese" ever. But I think its chemical structure is closer to plastic than cheese.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2011-11-18 12:58:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
Vincent Gaines wrote:
Andski wrote:
Supercaps are ... absolutely screwed when it meets a bubble isn't a terribly exciting prospect for a lot of us.



Bubbles interdict supers? Roll


this, my friends, is why RAWR has lost two regions within five months

2(!!!) regions in 5(!!!)months Shocked

i guess it was because many players of RAWR left the game because of ....
and regions simply got empty.... Lol

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Hemmo Paskiainen
#163 - 2011-11-18 13:01:23 UTC
ps: If u aint dutch u dont suppose to talk about cheese.... all u amaricans know from cheese is how the mac donalds cheese is tasting.... (like tire rubbar but without the bitumen aftertaste)

Dutch cheese Best cheese (kaas is baas)

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Myz Toyou
Nekkid Inc.
#164 - 2011-11-18 13:08:54 UTC
Gorgonzola all the way.
Mallory knox
FallenAngels S.A.
#165 - 2011-11-18 13:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallory knox
omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....

but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.



i dont pay more for this sh it
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#166 - 2011-11-18 13:21:17 UTC
Mallory knox wrote:
omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....

but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.



i dont pay more for this sh it



Can I haz your stuff?
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#167 - 2011-11-18 13:49:19 UTC
Quote:
The changes do nothing to address the issue of super-blobbing. By taking away all small drones, CCP has now made solo or small groups of Supercarriers totally non-viable. The only possible use for Supercarriers is now in massive megablobs of other Supers, which only a handful of alliances/coalitions can field.


No, its removed the ability to use them without support, which was the whole point.
You are moaning that you no longer have a solo-pwn mobile. Tough, it was never meant to be a solo pwn mobile, it was always meant to require support, regardless of how many super-caps you had.

Quote:
However, CCP has also just nerfed the "end game" of EVE. Oh, and for all of you who claim that EVE is a sandbox with no end game, go take a basic psychology class at your local community college. Pathetic.


Perhaps this is true but from this statement I think starting at infant school would probably be better for you.

So basically cry and moan all you want, Supercaps are still incrediably powerful and useful ships, they just aren't the be-all and end-all of the game anymore, the sub-cap fleets are now just as important, which is exactly how it should be. You may have liked dominating the field from your super but do you really think it was that much fun for everyone else?

tl;dr;
Op cries his overpowered boat won't be a solo wtfpwn mobile anymore, everyone else laughts at him for been a moron.

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ilmon
Legio Noviomagum
#168 - 2011-11-18 13:54:15 UTC
the changes are just fine with the adjusted drone bay size.

although they seem to fail in communicating between themselves with the later adjustments mentioned by the devs themselves
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#169 - 2011-11-18 14:32:53 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101

Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue´s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting

This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued


None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#170 - 2011-11-18 14:36:25 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101

Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue´s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting

This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued


None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.


Well its not isk sink .. but it takes trilions of ISK out of market just as easily. I dont care that much, since i am not an cap pilot and i never wanted to be one.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#171 - 2011-11-18 14:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101

Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue´s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting

This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued


None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.


Well its not isk sink .. but it takes trilions of ISK out of market just as easily. I dont care that much, since i am not an cap pilot and i never wanted to be one.


What? How so?

Aside from BPOs, there are very few ISK sinks involved.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2011-11-18 14:45:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Well people bought SCs for dont know 20 bil ISK

soon to be sold for 500 mil

every ship lost 19,5bil ISK multiply it by number of SCs and there you go Big smile

I exaggerate a bit, but thats what i meant. Not sure how i would call it. Devaluation of SCs price maybe.

Actually you are right and i am not...

since that 20bil bill is still in game
Hemmo Paskiainen
#173 - 2011-11-18 14:46:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
A lesson for u @ creating isk sink 101

Take something really expensive
Make it really awesome
Let ppl hop on the band waggon with hugh amount of isk invested (implants shiny mods)
Nerf it so demand crashing and everything devalue´s:
- characters lose billions of vaulue due less demand
- ships due less demand,
- implants, ect
-mods going to crash due not worth fitting

This is about trillions of isk that is getting lost in kills and devalued


None of those things are ISK sinks, aside from a trivial amount of ISK that goes into getting implants for LP.


depends how u look at it, while eve sitting atm on a super cap bubble that is about the explode ands a massive devaule of anything around it, it is a isk sink...Buy expense char, officer mod, implant super at top price... nerf happends.... devalluation happends = losing isk to nothing = isk sink (one time or multiple if ship explodes)

Example current u pay:
Erebus 85,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 8b + 10b
tracking & damage implant 5b
slaves set 2,2b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 45b
total: 155,2b

After nerft:
Erebus 75,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 4b + 3b (prices before abusing)
tracking & damage implant 3b
slaves set 1,5b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 35b
total: 121,5b

35 Billion isk dissapears into nothing, you tell me is that a isk sink or not






If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#174 - 2011-11-18 19:57:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
xxxak wrote:
. You, and your pathetic little group of rabble will be raped, murdered, and/or evicted, in no particular order. You will live in highsec, where you will mine or run missions.


What are you, 14?

Could we have some adult super-capital pilots arguing constructively in this thread now, please. Kthxbai.

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#175 - 2011-11-18 20:06:54 UTC
Mallory knox wrote:
omg this is a big **** .... i pay a lot of billion of isk for this ship and now you fu ck all the ship.....

but dont worry ccp always do the same ....... fu ck fuc k and fu ck all they can and dont ask if this is good or not.



i dont pay more for this sh it


Bye!

(I can haz ur stuffs?)

Ni.
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#176 - 2011-11-18 20:24:40 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:


depends how u look at it, while eve sitting atm on a super cap bubble that is about the explode ands a massive devaule of anything around it, it is a isk sink...Buy expense char, officer mod, implant super at top price... nerf happends.... devalluation happends = losing isk to nothing = isk sink (one time or multiple if ship explodes)

Example current u pay:
Erebus 85,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 8b + 10b
tracking & damage implant 5b
slaves set 2,2b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 45b
total: 155,2b

After nerft:
Erebus 75,
shiny cormack tc x2, mag stab x2 4b + 3b (prices before abusing)
tracking & damage implant 3b
slaves set 1,5b
buy titan char at premium (perfect) 35b
total: 121,5b

35 Billion isk dissapears into nothing, you tell me is that a isk sink or not




All the ISK paid for those things are paid to other players. ISK is still on the market. No ISK disappears. And whenever a Super dies it ***** out a ludicrous amount of ISK due to insurance. So if these changes are successful in making supers less useful/more vulnerable, and more die, it actually becomes an isk faucet.
Turkatron
#177 - 2011-11-18 20:40:14 UTC
habanero jack or gtfo of this cheese thread Twisted
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#178 - 2011-11-18 20:44:13 UTC
xxxak wrote:

TL;DR: My SC is no longer going to be a PWNMobile and I am quite frankly perturbed about it and I am going to put on my big boy panties and rage about it in the forums.



As one who had someone attempt to camp my T1 frigate into a station with a SC, I say, bugger off, chap. (Was that British enough?).


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#179 - 2011-11-18 21:36:37 UTC
Apples.. and oranges.. and stuff.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#180 - 2011-11-18 21:48:03 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
xxxak wrote:

TL;DR: My SC is no longer going to be a PWNMobile and I am quite frankly perturbed about it and I am going to put on my big boy panties and rage about it in the forums.



As one who had someone attempt to camp my T1 frigate into a station with a SC, I say, bugger off, chap. (Was that British enough?).




I think "**** off, mate!" is more properly British Blink...Her Majesty's English: I luvs it!

Ni.