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The League of Extraordinary Assholes Leviathan. 14
IIIAsharakIII The League of Extraordinary Assholes Leviathan. Likes received: 14	#41 - 2011-11-16 19:34:46 UTC 1 I love how in this corld, dark universe we call eve... Everyone sits around and bitches about balance and fairness. Wow what a hardcore game.

Cascades Mountain Operatives 658
Denidil Cascades Mountain Operatives Likes received: 658	#42 - 2011-11-16 19:37:14 UTC 1 cry more you little whiny ***** (OP) Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 595
Vincent Gaines Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 595	#43 - 2011-11-16 19:47:37 UTC xxxak wrote: , CCP has now made solo or small groups of Supercarriers totally non-viable. They were never supposed to be viable without fleet support, genius. Not a diplo. The above post was edited for spelling.

Aliastra Gallente Federation 78
thoth rothschild Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 78	#44 - 2011-11-16 19:50:25 UTC I start to wonder if ppl considered a group of 10 supers small scale pvp ?


Vincent Gaines Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 595	#45 - 2011-11-16 19:50:52 UTC Andski wrote: Supercaps are ... absolutely screwed when it meets a bubble isn't a terribly exciting prospect for a lot of us. Bubbles interdict supers? Not a diplo. The above post was edited for spelling.

Nova Fox

Novafox Shipyards

Likes received: 4,639

#46 - 2011-11-16 19:51:23 UTC

IIIAsharakIII wrote:

I love how in this corld, dark universe we call eve...

Everyone sits around and bitches about balance and fairness.

Wow what a hardcore game.

Then we talk about cheese.

I forgot what type of cheese they are but they come in minature wheels its like 7$ USD a small bag of 5 of them and these things are so rich I almost get sick eating just one but ahh they're so good.

Also IMO if they keep nerfing the supers at this rate they need to give an option to dock them up or anchor them at a pos.

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Vincent Gaines Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 595	#47 - 2011-11-16 19:53:03 UTC 1 I am partial to colby jack. I think that's that kind that is two of them mixed in. Not a diplo. The above post was edited for spelling.

Corina Jarr

en Welle Shipping Inc.

Likes received: 1,380

#48 - 2011-11-16 19:54:14 UTC | Edited by: Corina Jarr

Vincent Gaines wrote:

Andski wrote:

Supercaps are ... absolutely screwed when it meets a bubble isn't a terribly exciting prospect for a lot of us.

Bubbles interdict supers? Roll

Don;'t use em, so not sure but aren't supers immune to EWAR (which would include bubbles right?)?

Anyway...
1) this change will mean that supper blobs are not viable, needing super and sub blobs instead (because getting rid of blobs is not possible, people will always try to outnumber their opponent).

2) there is no universal END GAME, especially not null with supers. My end game is to own my own POS in a C7.

Edit:
I like many cheeses, Muenster, Pepper Jack, and Provolone being the top three... right now.


thoth rothschild Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 78	#49 - 2011-11-16 19:54:17 UTC Give them a "statue mode" Once they enter it they can be watched and shot like jita statue. unfortunetly there is no option to turn this mode off again :D

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Tore Vest Likes received: 364	#50 - 2011-11-16 19:56:13 UTC Gammalost And only the largest aliance in game can field supercariers after nerf No troll.

Nariya Kentaya

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 1,916

#51 - 2011-11-16 20:00:28 UTC

xxxak wrote:

CCP has proven yet again that they are no better than other modern game corporations, lurching forward without any finesse or sense of elegance.

The changes to Supercarriers, which now are nearly set in stone, are hilariously bad.

The changes do nothing to address the issue of super-blobbing. By taking away all small drones, CCP has now made solo or small groups of Supercarriers totally non-viable. The only possible use for Supercarriers is now in massive megablobs of other Supers, which only a handful of alliances/coalitions can field.

Anyone who attempts to use Supercarriers for small hot drops, small scale structure bashes, or other such non-blob work will be caught with their pants down and dragged to to a bloody and gruesome death.

The infinite log-off timer is another example of just how blunt and confused CCP's actions have become. Certainly logoffski was ridiculous with supers. But the new alternative, being held down for 23 hours by an Ibis, is equally silly.

Supercap pilots thinking with a full set of marbles are now heavily incentivesed to join the largest alliance they can find. This will only make Super blobs worse.

Finally, these changes mean that Supers will be used less. On some level, this is not a bad thing. Personally, I might advocate for the total removal of Supers from the game. However, CCP has also just nerfed the "end game" of EVE. Oh, and for all of you who claim that EVE is a sandbox with no end game, go take a basic psychology class at your local community college. Pathetic.

I, for one, hope my tears, at least, fuel you in your future journeys. I expect that by this time next year CCP will be a tattered corpse lying in a gutter by the access road.

TL;DR -- the new changes do nothing to reduce supercap blobbing, and in fact just make super pilots wants to get into bigger mega blobs. CCP fails and proves itself to be a dumb blunt-minded brute.

ok, 2 points....

ONE, why in the world would you assume that a supercap should be able to do anything solo? the whole point is that YES YOU CAN ******* DIE TO SUBCAPS NOW, thats why an alliance should only field CAPITALS in battles they cant risk losing, and the support fleet allows them to be protected from small scale ships.

the whole purpose of the BUFF/NERF (depending on how you look at it) is to make CAPITALS what they were supposed to be form the beginning, THE CORP of a FLEET, not SOLO PWNSMOVILEZ. a carrier should eb a valuable asset that can do damage in fleets with alot fo support but be vulnerbale when poorly protected.

lets look at this another way.... lets say in RL you own a carrier, by definition a SUPPORT VESSEL...
you decide to send it ALONE into enemy territory during war.... what do you THINK is going to happen to it? even against a small enemy fleet? it will get BURNED because it is a SUPPORT VESSEL. thats why you send SUBCAPS TO DEFEND IT.

i seriosuly ahte all these people whining about the capital nerf, all it does is make the balance of sub-caps to caps a little more logical as far as roles are considered.

RONA Midgard Academy 1,345
Obsidian Hawk RONA Midgard Academy Likes received: 1,345	#52 - 2011-11-16 20:06:44 UTC 1 Wait doesnt this mean that super caps will die to subcap fleets easier? Why Can't I have a picture signature. Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.


thoth rothschild Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 78	#53 - 2011-11-16 20:08:08 UTC No more ratting with supers ?

Dinsdale Pirannha

Pirannha Corp

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#54 - 2011-11-16 20:08:50 UTC | Edited by: Dinsdale Pirannha

I think we should nerf Havarti and buff Canadian Old Cheddar.

Like the Domi, Canadian Cheddar is the most versatile cheese, and is very good in many roles.
Therefore it is the best cheese.

Scambled eggs with cheddar melted in....yummy.
Grilled old cheddar sandwiches with tomato soup, warms anyone on a cold wet day.

And the old standy, Canadian Old Cheddar on crackers, with a glass of chocolate milk. Perfection.

Nova Fox

Novafox Shipyards

Likes received: 4,639

#55 - 2011-11-16 20:09:37 UTC

Even in WW2 the super carrier was the most hunted down ship in the pacific war. Yes it was a support ship but there is a reason why they wanted these ships sunk and it wasnt because of repair abilty which they really didnt have.

of note I think processed cheese products are the bane of mankind, something so fake tasting so good is so bad for you. Curse you stringy cheese!

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Morganta The Greater Goon Likes received: 2,023	#56 - 2011-11-16 20:10:40 UTC 2 oh god... you again you know what OP? the difference between my crap posts and yours is that you actually believe in the crap you post

Sunshine and Lollipops 27,526
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#57 - 2011-11-16 20:11:53 UTC 1 Obsidian Hawk wrote: Wait doesnt this mean that super caps will die to subcap fleets easier? Only if you fly it incompetently.


thoth rothschild Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 78	#58 - 2011-11-16 20:12:12 UTC \| Edited by: thoth rothschild I get hungry :(((( Silence! i kill u!


Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards Likes received: 4,639	#59 - 2011-11-16 20:12:20 UTC 1 Morganta wrote: oh god... you again you know what OP? the difference between my crap posts and yours is that you actually believe in the crap you post At least we have cheese Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.

State War Academy Caldari State 652
Guttripper State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 652	#60 - 2011-11-16 20:15:04 UTC 1 I do not mind various cheeses and always open to try something new. Though too much cheese and well, the digestive system likes to get backed up, if you catch my drift...