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Sansha Kuvakei
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Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#1 - 2011-11-16 17:17:51 UTC
Hey, CCP... Any chance this Sansha Kuvakei idiot's gonna get his act in gear before 2012...? Roll

Is this his evil plan...? Pump so much cash into the economy that it collapses on itself? Seriously, the guy's ********... Change his 'game plan' ffs.

To be honest, I reckon his best bet, would be to withdraw back to his WH to lick his wounds, and formulate something more cunning and surprise us all in say........ six months, minimum.

And for the benefit of the 'u mad?' crowd... CCP - honest question.... When are you going to make *all* PVE content dynamic? Having three/four Logi's and a webpage of 'triggers' just smacks utterly, of 'fail'.

With all the superb work you're doing right now, this'd be the cherry on top.
Boseo
Azure Horizon
#2 - 2011-11-16 17:21:59 UTC
I can see it now:

Hiram Alexander: Is this his evil plan...? Pump so much cash into the economy that it collapses on itself?

Sansha Kuvakei: blast and I would have got away with it to! If it was not for you meddling pilots!

Sorry but file “forumsig.GIF” is currently unavailable please come back later…… like in a year or so.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-16 17:37:18 UTC
Yah, i think its time the Sansha realised that they arent making much headway into K-Space and should consider withdrawing.

Maybe to give some other pirate faction a stab at taking on empire and the pod pilots ;-)

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2011-11-16 17:43:47 UTC
But thier war is with the capsuleers now. Also what about those sleepers.

It be awful if they do an incursion.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2011-11-16 18:02:55 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
But thier war is with the capsuleers now. Also what about those sleepers.

It be awful if they do an incursion.


We already had a sleeper incursion in our c6 Sad
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#6 - 2011-11-16 18:19:55 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
But thier war is with the capsuleers now. Also what about those sleepers.

It be awful if they do an incursion.


We already had a sleeper incursion in our c6 Sad


I hope you recover. didnt know they went attacking pos's these days.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2011-11-16 18:22:02 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
But thier war is with the capsuleers now. Also what about those sleepers.

It be awful if they do an incursion.


We already had a sleeper incursion in our c6 Sad


I hope you recover. didnt know they went attacking pos's these days.


tried to gank the miners, hotdropped us with a wh :P
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2011-11-16 18:36:10 UTC
Solution:


When the "mother" appears, give it a despawn timer of whatever.

This way, they can't just ignore the site and keep raking in the ISK and LPs.

Then, if the mother despawns and is NOT destroyed, ZERO bounties and LPS are awarded. Zilch. Notzink!!!

Incursions are ISK pumps because they can ignore the mother for days and keep the grindfest going.

Why pay out to pilots for a failed mission?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
ShipToaster
#9 - 2011-11-16 19:28:23 UTC
30% incursion payment drop, only one incursion in high sec at a time, more adaptable sansha, these are the only ways to fight incursion related economic meltdown in EVE.

Only ways? Well anything that has a significant impact on incursions massive profits will do.

.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2011-11-16 20:33:48 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
30% incursion payment drop, only one incursion in high sec at a time, more adaptable sansha, these are the only ways to fight incursion related economic meltdown in EVE.

Only ways? Well anything that has a significant impact on incursions massive profits will do.


Yes sure ... let's make 40 man incursion fleets pay less than a level 4 mission runner.
Omg you're genius.
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-11-16 20:38:13 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Yah, i think its time the Sansha realised that they arent making much headway into K-Space and should consider withdrawing.

Maybe to give some other pirate faction a stab at taking on empire and the pod pilots ;-)


Maybe the player alliances should allowed to wage a war on empire. GoonSwarm vs the Caldari for example.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
ShipToaster
#12 - 2011-11-16 20:50:42 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
ShipToaster wrote:
30% incursion payment drop, only one incursion in high sec at a time, more adaptable sansha, these are the only ways to fight incursion related economic meltdown in EVE.

Only ways? Well anything that has a significant impact on incursions massive profits will do.


Yes sure ... let's make 40 man incursion fleets pay less than a level 4 mission runner.
Omg you're genius.


To respond to your trolling, do VG's earn more than HQ's.

Reduce payments for L4's as well then. Two problems solved.

.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#13 - 2011-11-16 23:06:38 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
ShipToaster wrote:
30% incursion payment drop, only one incursion in high sec at a time, more adaptable sansha, these are the only ways to fight incursion related economic meltdown in EVE.

Only ways? Well anything that has a significant impact on incursions massive profits will do.


Yes sure ... let's make 40 man incursion fleets pay less than a level 4 mission runner.
Omg you're genius.


To respond to your trolling, do VG's earn more than HQ's.

Reduce payments for L4's as well then. Two problems solved.

I'll be honest -- I don't have a problem with how much Isk level 4's pay out, not one bit. My problem, is that I think they're far too bloody easy...

1. Buy a nice ship.
2. Train some okay skills.
3. Check webpage of choice for damage types, and triggers.
4. Profit.

EVE stands head and shoulders above every other MMO in my opinion, except in PVE, where it becomes just as embarassing as the rest --- which is a shame.

Incursions have a lot to answer for. They were CCP'S opportunity to create a truly dynamic evolving system, which could have been an exemplar to all... but instead, have devolved into pimp-fit farmville.

"I am disgust" as the saying goes.

--- Sansha Kuvakei...? who...?

Herzog Wolfhammer, +5 internets, Sir.
Crias Taylor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-16 23:26:58 UTC
The only problem with Incursions is there is nothing to drive you in wanting to kill the boss over milking it or someone stealing the boss while you milk it.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-16 23:28:57 UTC
boseo wrote:
I can see it now:

Hiram Alexander: Is this his evil plan...? Pump so much cash into the economy that it collapses on itself?

Sansha Kuvakei: blast and I would have got away with it to! If it was not for you meddling pilots!


i expect to see Hiram Alexander in an incursion soon as Sansha Kuvakei just cloned him.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-16 23:33:50 UTC
Why is it just Sansha doing this? The Guristas and Blood Raiders storm empire space in the fluff and the Angels are supposed to have freaking Jove technology. You'd think they'd get tired of hanging out in belts/deadspace pockets by now and decide to go after the people who farm them all day.

Meanwhile, the Sleepers finally put two-and-two together ("hey, those douchebags live right next door!") and start bashing POS's.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#17 - 2011-11-16 23:37:14 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
boseo wrote:
I can see it now:

Hiram Alexander: Is this his evil plan...? Pump so much cash into the economy that it collapses on itself?

Sansha Kuvakei: blast and I would have got away with it to! If it was not for you meddling pilots!


i expect to see Hiram Alexander in an incursion soon as Sansha Kuvakei just cloned him.

Lol, can you imagine..??? My God...! The shame... don't even joke.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#18 - 2011-11-16 23:45:59 UTC
Who?

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#19 - 2011-11-16 23:46:43 UTC
We just need to get a good plumber up in K-Space and shut down the bloody ISK faucet, as it won't stop spewing, and is creating an economic meltdown. Due to Incursion farming, bot mining, etc, etc, inflation is taking its toll, and is affecting certain players' ability to continue playing (I quote the alarming rate at which PLEX prices keep rising).

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Avila Cracko
#20 - 2011-11-16 23:55:21 UTC
- Make that concord gather forces and kill all incursion if players are milking it... do not kill boss or do not want to get to boss in some time frame or are not met some expectation in advance... -> No payment
- and reduce isk faucet of incursions...
- and... less incursions... it can not be steady/continuous source of income for some players... it must be event and not... meh... there is another one... and another one... and another one...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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