EVE Fiction

I can't remember where I read it (I think Empyrean Age), but I remember reading about how the cloning system works, when a capsuleer is podded. When it detects a breach in the pod, it flashes an image of the capsuleer's brain and transmits it through the stargates (basically routers), eventually reaching the medical bay where your clone is, to update the clone up to the moment where he died.

Which raises an interesting question; Since you don't have a system detecting when you're dead, what happens, lore-wise, if a capsuleer dies in station?

Having implant in your head similar to what mercenaries on battlefield have and station receivers receiving your consciousness is the key to your survival.

Think of a clone as your hard copy last backup with the pod breach transmission being an incremental addition to the hard copy to gather the difference since the last "backup"


if you're not in your pod, you wake up with complete amnesia from the last time you updated your clone - essentially losing memories and experience..

but your clone would have all the memories and skills up to the moment they were created/last updated, no?

No, that's DUST clones. (OK not really, it's more complicated. Your memories are in some sort of centralized database and get updated from your DUST-implants and on demand downloaded to a fresh clone.)

Capsuleer-clones are, like all clones when fresh and unused, empty shells. Only when the mind-scanner in your capsule scans your mind and sends the image back, does the clone receive your memories.

To contrast this with Dustbunnies, there's a nice little official lore story somewhere mentioning cases where DUST-soldiers were accidentally duplicated because of their implants: A DUST-mercenary abandoned and thought KIA is cloned again with the old memories still in the database, even if the "real" Dustbunny is still alive and well back on that old battlefield. As long as the old one isn't killed (in range of a receiver, that is), the new memories won't enter the central database.

Luckily those cases resolve themselves on account of DUST-clones having a life expectancy of around 5 years and the short range of their transmitters, so there is never any confusion of which one of you is real.

In short:
Capsuleer: Infinite transmitting range, memories can only be transmitted when you're inside your capsule. Your life expectancy is rather high, thanks to other upgrades. You are still you, even though some smartass philosophers could point out this is only because none of your other selves can be around to disagree with you.

Dustbunny: Very short transmitting range, your memories are stored savely away from the battlefield, only occasional memory-upgrades are needed. You can die anywhere and still survive, sometimes with memory-loss. Your life expectancy is 5 years, though. Also technically speaking, only that bunch of stored memories is really "you".

Most of this is from EVE: Source, other stuff I've simply read up in lore-stuff like the chronicles.

Then it is debatable wether or not it would really be "you". From what I understood, he whole point of the consciousness transfer as a central part of the cloning process, either with the Dust-like implants or the capsule's brain-flash imaging, is that your "consciousness" is never at two places at the same time. Clones are supposedly blank slates until their brains are reconfigured on a neural level to match your deceased body's neural architecture. Otherwise, you could have all sorts of cliché stories with clones being woken up prematurely and meeting with their "real" self...

I may be wrong on this, but I always thought the clone SP limit was more of a bandwidth thing between the emitter and the reciever (with potentially having to send the image of your brain through the stargate network and all), not an actual memory limit in the clone itself.

I believe that this is incorrect, but I'm trying to find lore on Jump Clones so if you have a link I'd appreciate it.

The issue with Falek Grange's clone was that the final stages where interrupted. The data had been burned out of his brain, transfered to the clone facility and was in the process of being inserted into his new clone when life got interesting.

EVE: Source clearly states that the "burning scanner" technology that is used to read the brain state destroyes the brain in the process, takes a full and accurate snapshot, and thus allows the subject to maintain the stream of consiousness between bodies. The "Full and accurate" would not imply that only part of the memory is transfered.

I have no lore knowledge of how jump clones work, but I would guess that the tech is fundamentally different than a burn scanner... perhaps one that only works with more time and in a more controlled environment than even a Pod can supply.

each clone is a seperate instance of consciousness with modified memories. The new clone is now you, and the previous you is dead, with "you" being your unique psyche.

So it doesnt matter how many of "you" there are, since that does not infringe on one's ability to be you.

My post and point are not affected by that fact.....well, fiction......
I'd also like to hear how it works in your opinion.

regarding the state of unused clones? I never said anything about them, and my post is completely compatible with them being blank when unused anyway. I don't think I understand what you're saying.