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Dont find the button to remove the tooltip from my eve . . i hope we got one !!!!!
After few years Eve i think i know how a gate or sun looks . . .

By having a cluster of brackets in space pop up a tooltip window now you remove the ability that we once had to mouse over the grouped cluster of brackets when a target warps off to a cluster and have them separate by holding mouse over the cluster to see which one he warped to.

For example. Let's assume there are two asteroid belt brackets, a station bracket, and a POCO bracket in one cluster. A target warps to one of those in that cluster. By mousing over that cluster of brackets in space previously, they would separtate vertically and you could distinguish which bracket the target warped to. Be it the station, POCO, belt, etc... With a popping up spreadsheet as we now have with these new changes you can not.

I am fairly sure that Trebor, who has been fighting for the predictive mouse (amazon menu hack) for years will be buying someone some vodka for this addition.

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I do rather like that idea in HUD 3, although I have a feeling that sort of thing was hinted at as "coming next".

Please get rid of the new tooltip menu for mousing over stuff. I am trying to find something in space and I get this giant box menu about 50 items long (imagine how long this list will be in large fleet fights) which completely blocks what I am trying to view in space (it is like this http://i.imgur.com/LYCBacJ.jpg but the list is about 5x as long). How is this a useful change for any player, new or old? The last thing eve needs is even more giant menus/lists blocking the screen, especially when they have completely redundant information. "Oh, you are trying to look at something in space. Well, here is a giant box to block your view. Enjoy."


When CCP Rise did his NPE presentation at fanfest I thought by tooltips he meant displays of useful stats like we get for modules, not more lists/menus/words/boxes in space which I thought eve was trying to get away from?

I'm pretty sure that isn't the "click to turn it off" check box that people seem to think exists for all features in all software.

Seriously, Chrome?

This is a disaster - where can I turn this crap off.

Try doing a data or relic site. The stupid tips obliterate the ability to get to tightly packed groups of cans.

FFS do you do any bloody testing, I would get fired at work for letting this through.

Good, you had me a little worried there.

I trust you get my point however, unless you are suggesting that EVE work in the same fashion with warnings, special hidden pages, and innumerable ways to make sure you game doesn't function correctly available to the average user.

People want simple check boxes to turn off virtually every possible element of the interface, or better yet the ability to change that functionality completely, and seem to get confused when often that simply isn't possible (without introducing problems that frankly none of us wants to deal with).

In this particular case though, I'm going to have to go along with the herd. Screen real estate is valuable in EVE, and great care needs to be taken with it to not obstruct critical functionality.

Team Pirate Unicorns go sit in the naughty corner and face into the wall, this is why there is a TEST SERVER, so you can post your stuff there and find out "hey that bits neat, but seriously that popup for bracket clusters is utter crap, put back to old" without needing to screw up tq in getting that information.

Please prove me horribly wrong and fix that along with the other silly blocking issues others have highlighted in this thread, and whilst an option to configure which tooltips we get and which we don't would be an awesome followup, sadly I'm already resigned to all the unwanted ones being yet another layer of annoying ui fluff to get used to ignoring/working around.

And yes we'll nearly always ask for an option to turn stuff off, because there's often a variety of usage cases in which some feature isn't wanted or even downright unhelpfull, yet there is NEVER an option to do so :(

The overview settings screen somewhat fits that description, many people struggle to find it until pointed there, and it offers a fair variety of ways to screw your experience up with zero feedback about what things do/affect until you learn how it works, hope you aren't suggesting we nuke that too due to its complexity/potential for disaster.

Other games have an 'Advanced options: here be dragons' page in their settings menus that allow significant customisation to take place, other than CCP not wanting to give us the option there is no real reason EVE couldn't have something similar.