EVE General Discussion

not everybody can be a content creator.



thing is tho, you really need to create some content in EVE. Even if it's forced, and it usually ends up with massive tears and awesome hatemail.


yes, hatemail is also content.

Already a lot of good advice given in the thread, but wanted to add one thing.
This thread will help you and your friend understand the advantages and disadvantages that comes with some of the options you have after you decide to leave your starter corporation.

I would also suggest that you look into EVE Uni, which is an excellent place for young players that are looking to learn the game and are unsure what direction to go in.

Welcome to EVE!

OR you can find a group to join for pvp, fly hero tackle, die in a fire, have them replace your ship, and repeat.
OR you can roll some awox alts, grab some friends and go kill orcas.
OR you could get involved in industry and trade and be moving billions of isk a month into the game.
OR you could roll into low and null exploration solo and dodged gate camps and people hunting you
OR you could mission and run the epic pirate arcs to learn the basics of flying small ships.

Or you could do any other activity in the game that doesn't require flying capital ships. SP is overrated.

First of all.. I drive a truck for a living and find it fulfilling. Just saying. But this is about EVE not RL.

Ive skimmed a lot of posts but I get what you are getting at and a lot of people on the forums dont think of things like I do so.

I get what you are saying... A lot of us find this game repetitive. It takes a special type of person to enjoy the spreadsheet side.

I would take the advice of some of the more serious players as to what you actually want to do in the game but that alone will not be enough. I always recommend taking the time to really learn the game and and fully understand what you are doing. What you are doing is usually not as important as how you do it. Weather it be the meta game, learning how to fly manually, or truly becoming a EFT warrior such as myself. Being the sandbox that this game is, until you focus primarily on that side, you are missing out.

You and your friend should find some other people to play with that you truly enjoy playing with regardless of what it is you decide to do. My most precious memories in this game are from having nights of stupid fun in comms with friends while not really accomplishing anything other then getting kills or sec status. If you find a good group, these same people will pe able to help you along on your ISK making or desired "career field", more then anyone on the forums can.

Find a group of buddies that are good at the game to help you take over the world and the rest will fall into place.

Thanks everyone for the tremendously positive and informative feedback so far. I've read about the EVE community to be very rookie unfriendly, but I can't second this until now. Yesterday I had a detailled conversation with some veterans and even got some helpful ingame mails from people who spared some time to help me on my ingame voyage.

It turned out that my Vexor is more than capable to finish level 2 security missions. No wonder I get a hard time in a cruiser, when the mission briefing clearly states "You don't have to clear the pocket; just jump through and make it out alive"! Not reading mission briefings thoroughly enough seems to be a legacy from past MMORPG habits. ;) Moreover I blocked my DPS progress by my skill map accidently because I remapped on int/mem at the beginning to improve my amor tanking capabilities, leaving damage affecting skills aside for a while. Yesterday I finished the basic armor skills and remapped again to focus on ship skills, drone skills and turret skills eventually. I guess, I can expect my applicable DPS to rise significantly during the next days to be more effective in security missions. I will also transition from a battlecruiser soon (Myrmidon with active tank fittings should be fine I guess, because of the ship bonus? I do like droneboats.) and push standings to get access to level 3/4 missions.

In the meantime I will continue mission running (while focused), do some mining (while chatting / being brainafk) and exploring wormwholes (to take screenshots of fun places). Faction Warfare also seems to be very interesting, but I still don't understand its impact on my standings entirely and don't wanna lock myself out of other factions' epic arcs. So probably no FW until level 4 epic arcs are finished. It also seems like my first impression about incursions being a midstep milestone on the way to massive fleet PvPing seems to be wrong because of the high requirements in terms of skills, ship and fittings. So I guess running incursions is like doing "25 Heroic Raids" (WoW comparison, sorry).

Many people suggested entering nullsec to be a desirable goal, including being part of a nullsec corp. I will keep this in mind and give it a shot in the future. It seems it has much to offer and the description of a capsuleer sounded like fun yesterday (mining corp, pirating, etc). At the moment I don't even meet joining criterias of lowsec corps because I've only accumulated 700k SP so far (beat me over the head with it), but I guess it's time to talk to my buddy that his 1man corp he urged me to join might not be the most beneficial way to improve here.

Regarding the chart, which got posted twice ( http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ ) here: well organized and very informative. Thank you very much. This really helps rookies to understand which paths you can follow.

In terms of using tools, spreadsheets and so on I'm focusing on EVEMon and EFT. I like the way both can interact with each other.

Oh, and sorry to the person who drives trucks. I know what you mean, so no offense. It's just solo-hauling makes a rookie feel very vulnerable in EVE, like a gold fish swimming right next to piranhas.

Nah, it's a misnomer. It really depends on attitude. If someone comes off as 'entitled' well that's headed to rough times here. A lot of other games sort of encourage entitlement play, and it's frowned on here if carried over. EVE is adaptive yet harsh, and willingness to learn the ropes is a positive, though we all have our opinions on the many ropes of EVE.

As for reading mission reports, I hardly read mission reports in-game. Use EVE-survival (if someone hasn't mentioned it to you), especially when you get up to lvl3 and lvl4 missions. Eventually you won't need to read reports at all in many cases, it gets repetitive. Mission grinding can get as bland as mining at times, it's just for making ISK to fund other things. Or you can always zest up lvl4 missions by doing it in a Assault Frigate (AF) now and then

If exploration deep in the lion's den interests you, this might serve.

If you want to play just-the-tip with PVP or piracy in a controlled way without commitment and going all in (or trading ship losses while learning), this might serve.

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Yes, be a tiny cog in a big machine. Pay to play a game that puts you in a worse position than your job! If I wanted to be a faceless "human resource" in a cube I would go to work. I play games to be the hero! :)

Now you are getting it

If you want, hit me up with an EvE mail, maybe I can share some pointers or such

Maybe you might like to collect my bounty, well, try to