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Latest patch has tool tips that interfere with loot spew hunting

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#1 - 2014-05-13 11:34:47 UTC
I just ran out of miniprofs - so next one that spawns up I'll invest in actually clicking one, but from what I can see its a plain usability downgrade.

VTyx Soul
Station Window Lickers
#2 - 2014-05-13 11:39:41 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
I just ran out of miniprofs - so next one that spawns up I'll invest in actually clicking one, but from what I can see its a plain usability downgrade.




Could you please explain how the tool tips obscure your view/ Thus far I have not had any problems.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-05-13 11:42:33 UTC
Don't worry, it should only be for a couple of weeks right?

CCP did say they were removing the loot spew mechanic in the summer expansion. Haven't heard anything about it since, including nothing on it that I saw from the FanFest stream, but surely they are removing it still.
VTyx Soul
Station Window Lickers
#4 - 2014-05-13 11:45:40 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Don't worry, it should only be for a couple of weeks right?

CCP did say they were removing the loot spew mechanic in the summer expansion. Haven't heard anything about it since, including nothing on it that I saw from the FanFest stream, but surely they are removing it still.


They mentioned its removal to the audiences delight Big smile I do find loot spew annoying, even coloured cans would have been a big improvement.
Audrey UntzUntz
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-05-13 12:00:41 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
I just ran out of miniprofs - so next one that spawns up I'll invest in actually clicking one, but from what I can see its a plain usability downgrade.


You mean to say a recent UI change has actually decreased usability? This is truly a rare occurrence in the modern day landscape of EVE Online. Lol
Arianne Kass
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-05-13 12:07:51 UTC
The tooltip messes up targetting groups of NPCs too. Now if I could ctrl-click targets from that pop-up list it would be brilliant. As it currently stands I'd rather do without it.
Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-13 12:09:57 UTC
Just found this now as well on my explorer. By the time that the tooltip appears telling what sort of can it is (Parts / Materials / Data / Scrap), the can is already half-way on its merry way to despawning.
Comodo Leader
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-05-13 12:12:21 UTC
Is there a way to turn off these tool tips?
Marcel Brinalle
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-13 12:12:36 UTC
agreed. they obscure my view when picking cans, they also create lag. any way to remove them?
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#10 - 2014-05-13 12:17:11 UTC
Can't say anything about loot spew but those two things are good.

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- Grouped brackets will no longer spread out when moused over, and are instead listed in a scrollable tooltip.
- Implemented smart mouse prediction, which should greatly improve moving between nested menus. As a result of this change, careful lateral mouse movement should no longer be required to move between submenus.

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sloany
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-05-13 12:23:47 UTC
The new tooltip has a delay so it's no good to use when you need to identify a ship quickly by hovering over it.
Placing the tooltip above the target is a bad place for it, it should be to the right of the target like it was so it's out of the way and doesn't cause obstruction.
Marcel Brinalle
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-05-13 12:29:10 UTC
its not even a matter of identifying a content of the can. one simply can't click something that is underneath a tooltip. and what if that's a data can one's after? it just flies away
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#13 - 2014-05-13 12:37:37 UTC
VTyx Soul wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
I just ran out of miniprofs - so next one that spawns up I'll invest in actually clicking one, but from what I can see its a plain usability downgrade.




Could you please explain how the tool tips obscure your view/ Thus far I have not had any problems.


Because the tooltip is slow, catches the mouse if you happen to want to move the mouse up to the next can and generally delays the process of locating the important half a dozen cans in the spew.

Comodo Leader
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-05-13 12:40:25 UTC
UI improvement... not so much.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#15 - 2014-05-13 12:41:15 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Don't worry, it should only be for a couple of weeks right?

CCP did say they were removing the loot spew mechanic in the summer expansion. Haven't heard anything about it since, including nothing on it that I saw from the FanFest stream, but surely they are removing it still.


I generally decloak during loot spew, and it leads to amusing things like helios on helios action so I'm actually not a fan of that idea. The design purpose of it was likely to make people choose to be more efficient at it, or to watch their grid, and its pretty good at splitting the greedy from the wary.

I'd be fine if highsec exploration had it removed but surely it must be fun stealing those when they pop too.