These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE Information Portal

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

New dev blog: Anomalies revisited

First post First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#361 - 2011-12-12 06:28:13 UTC
Sarrgon wrote:
But also could say, the alloys that drones drop is as good as ISK and much of it gets sold directly for ISK, gets traded as if ISK or gets made into ships and other goods to be sold for ISK. IT's like saying mining gold IRL doesn't get you money, only the minting press does. But I guess it all depends on how you look at it. But then why do so many say drone lands are such a ISK faucet if it isn't?


Income != Isk Faucet.

Income deals with a players wallet, to which drone poo (when sold) adds isk. That isk is not new isk, it's already circulating.

Isk faucets deal with the Isk supply (the total of all the isk in all the wallets): Everytime you get a bounty, there is more isk in the game than there was before that act.


Drone lands are a massive Income source. The income you can make there is likely higher than any other ratting area (not counting xport costs). They are not an Isk faucet, as they bring no Isk into the game. They are a material faucet instead, which is what kills miners.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#362 - 2011-12-12 18:46:41 UTC
The problem with drone rats is that the reward system was designed around the idea that a well-built ratting battleship would earn as much minerals as a well-built Hulk. As capital ship ratting became more prevalent and super-ratting ships like Marauders and PVE T3s were introduced, all other mining ships were rendered obsolete and inferior in the mineral market. However, since the drone poo is pegged to the economy and not an ISK faucet, drone ratting earns less and less, ironically forcing the high-level ratters to rat more and more just to keep their income stable in an endless loop of mineral devaluation, worsening the problem. Combined with the ease of transport of compressed mins + JBs and JFs and this problem affects everyone in EVE on one level or another.
Arnaz Finx
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#363 - 2012-01-09 14:17:40 UTC
Any updates at all CCP?

Or are we stuck the way they are now.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#364 - 2012-01-09 15:47:00 UTC
Arnaz Finx wrote:
Any updates at all CCP?

Or are we stuck the way they are now.


Most everyone I know has adapted to the new anoms. People in normal BSes tend to run rally points and such (making the same or better isk than they used to in forsaken hubs), people in fancier getups tend to run Forsaken or Forlorn Hubs, making as much (or more) as they did in Sanctums. Sanctums are pretty much only worthwhile if you value good escalations.

CCP might alter them, or those plans could go the way of FW. At this point, we've adapted (coupla people lost their boats, but they got reimbursed).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#365 - 2012-01-09 16:58:12 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Arnaz Finx wrote:
Any updates at all CCP?

Or are we stuck the way they are now.


Most everyone I know has adapted to the new anoms. People in normal BSes tend to run rally points and such (making the same or better isk than they used to in forsaken hubs), people in fancier getups tend to run Forsaken or Forlorn Hubs, making as much (or more) as they did in Sanctums. Sanctums are pretty much only worthwhile if you value good escalations.

CCP might alter them, or those plans could go the way of FW. At this point, we've adapted (coupla people lost their boats, but they got reimbursed).


That last part: Really? I wonder if I could get reimbursed for my 3 billion ISK Tengu I lost saving a Moros fom Sleepers in a C6
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#366 - 2012-01-09 20:49:03 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:


That last part: Really? I wonder if I could get reimbursed for my 3 billion ISK Tengu I lost saving a Moros fom Sleepers in a C6


They got reimbursed because CCP drastically and relatively quietly increased the incoming DPS when they tried to increase the income produced. I don't know if CCP altered WH sites at the same time (Hadn't heard anything about that kind of change).

CCP also said that the increased incoming DPS was a mistake on their part.

If a change in the sites and a CCP admitted mistake led you to lose your Tengu, you probably could get it reimbursed(minus whatever dropped in your wreck, AFAIK they never reimburse that stuff).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#367 - 2012-01-17 09:07:47 UTC
So whats going on with the drone anoms?

Has there been any news regarding the switch to a bounty system? Or any news regarding new faction loot from them?

Australian Fanfest Event https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=90062
Casius Omega
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#368 - 2012-01-24 15:37:24 UTC
Headerman wrote:
So whats going on with the drone anoms?

Has there been any news regarding the switch to a bounty system? Or any news regarding new faction loot from them?



^^^^^
This
Ulster Assasin
#369 - 2012-02-10 18:55:13 UTC
PLease bring in bounty's to the drone regions, hordes are terrible now. Sad
RaZor Flash
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#370 - 2012-03-20 04:53:28 UTC
So, I'm loving the new changes on the most recent patch, win win win.