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Carriers & Drone Changes in High Class WH

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#1 - 2014-05-12 19:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
I'm not a carrier pilot. I know very little about carriers except that I've been told they are like really good guardians when they go into super space priest mode.

Was playing around on the test server before the mirror where I trained into a carrier just for ***** and giggles. Was putting out 2k dps with Geckos on my nano nid Big smile. My drone skills aren't very good(lvl 4s with sporadic 3's and 5's) and unfortunately didn't think of it before the mirror but what could a thanny do with fighters in a c5/c6 site?

Will the drone changes cause high class wh space to proliferate with solo ratting carriers? Whats the viability of a thanny running sites solo after the proposed drone changes? Running sites solo in a dread is already stupid easy so if you could do if with a carrier I think a lot of people would do it.

Solo carrier ratting would have some very significant advantages over solo dread.
Pros:
If you get dropped you can defend yourself much better then a dread. If its bad you can triage and try to scramble a rescue fleet.
Cheaper then a dread to lose. If you lose the carrier your down 3 sites worth of isk woopydedobasil.gif
Has fleet hanger and maintenance array. (Dual carrier ratting would be very difficult to kill)
Can pile in as many carriers as you want. (can't do this with dreads it messes up tracking)
Easier to cyno around after your done with expo

Cons:
Your weapon system is destroyable.
Slower then Dread method (if your not piling in carriers)

Discuss Big smile
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-05-12 19:20:57 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
I'm not a carrier pilot.


Stopped reading
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#3 - 2014-05-12 19:24:33 UTC
Leon en Marland
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#4 - 2014-05-12 19:43:55 UTC
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
I'm not a carrier pilot.


Stopped reading


Guys, carriers are super hard to fly. If you don't fly one you can't speculate using common sense

oh wait
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-05-12 20:22:56 UTC
You are ******** aquila, geckos are being nerfed.
Pls no emo talk.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2014-05-12 20:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalel Nimrott
People dont read yet they try to troll. Forum working as intended.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-12 21:26:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
Leon en Marland wrote:
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
I'm not a carrier pilot.


Stopped reading


Guys, carriers are super hard to fly. If you don't fly one you can't speculate using common sense

oh wait


Come on, we both know a thread is only worth reading if it has been made by a carrier pilot who lives in a C6.

Nah, I was just kidding guys. I'm sure it's a very good read.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-05-12 22:42:00 UTC
10/10 this thread is going places.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#9 - 2014-05-13 01:45:16 UTC
All the real fighter carrier pilots are moving to completely overpowered, can't be tackled worth a damn, sub cap meat grinders known as supers.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#10 - 2014-05-13 02:02:12 UTC
>.>

<.<

Last time I checked this is the wh forums... no supers here bro
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#11 - 2014-05-13 04:24:21 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
>.>

<.<

Last time I checked this is the wh forums... no supers here bro


One line of code is the only thing that keeps that in check
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#12 - 2014-05-13 04:26:15 UTC
And then hardcore wh'ers riot
Elle Lau
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#13 - 2014-05-13 04:26:58 UTC
I'm no carrier pilot so I probably can't comment.. oh wai...

Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Running sites solo in a dread is already stupid easy


Why easy something with a tenth of the DPS instead then?


Supers are the bane of my existence. Every time I go to lowsec...
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2014-05-13 04:27:29 UTC
Even though Geckos are being nerfed, believe I read that drone modules will now apply to fighters? So there may be hope yet...

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#15 - 2014-05-13 04:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
Elle Lau wrote:
I'm no carrier pilot so I probably can't comment.. oh wai...

Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Running sites solo in a dread is already stupid easy


Why easy something with a tenth of the DPS instead then?


Safer.
Can mitigate the loss of speed by bringing more carriers which also makes it safer.

Also with drone buff carriers will have 20-2500 dps using fighters which is still better then a marauder.
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#16 - 2014-05-13 04:35:09 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
Even though Geckos are being nerfed, believe I read that drone modules will now apply to fighters? So there may be hope yet...


Fighters are getting some pretty hardcore buffs.
All universal drone skills will now apply to fighters. Optimal, Speed, Tracking, DDA's, etc etc.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#17 - 2014-05-13 04:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Paikis
Andrew Jester wrote:
Even though Geckos are being nerfed, believe I read that drone modules will now apply to fighters? So there may be hope yet...


Eh, they aren't really being nerfed, they were deliberately released with overpowered stats because CCP knew that in the very near future, they would be changing Drone skills. Anyways, thats kind of a pointless discussion.

Yes, all drone modules and skills will soon apply to fighters. My carrier alt can't wait. Gallente Carrier V, all drone skills at V.

From memory you can get something stupid like 3k DPS out of a full DPS fit Thanny.

Thanatos, Lossmail INC! wrote:

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Cap Recharger II

Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I

Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II

Firbolg x15


I also think I read something about faction DDAs. They could be tasty.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#18 - 2014-05-13 04:52:44 UTC
You did and they will be

I'm right behind you

Elle Lau
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#19 - 2014-05-13 05:30:53 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Elle Lau wrote:
I'm no carrier pilot so I probably can't comment.. oh wai...

Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Running sites solo in a dread is already stupid easy


Why easy something with a tenth of the DPS instead then?


Safer.
Can mitigate the loss of speed by bringing more carriers which also makes it safer.

Also with drone buff carriers will have 20-2500 dps using fighters which is still better then a marauder.


Ok so it will take the time to destroy 1 escalation wave from 20 minutes to 15 minutes, but will you run out of fighters by then? Because they will probably be alpha'ed off the field.

This thread is pointless when you can single dread an escalation wave in like 2 minutes with at least a 50k+ shield tank... "safer" ... compared to an un-triaged carrier trying to tank sleepers and or trying to keep it's little fighters alive at the same time.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#20 - 2014-05-13 05:34:32 UTC
Skills like drone durability will soon effect fighters making them much more difficult to kill.

Obviously if you can fly a dread do the dread thing. There are many pilots that can't fly the required dreads but can fly carriers. Those pilots can make good isk using this in a relative safety.
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