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[Kronos] Mordu's Legion

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Anna Shole
CustomCombatGaming
#861 - 2014-05-19 01:02:29 UTC
So they will be adding mordus legion agents in low sec correct?
Hagika
Standard Corp 123
#862 - 2014-05-19 01:52:48 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Michael Harari wrote:
Templar Dane wrote:


Load thermal by default, switch with 1 left in the clip.........


Spend 35s reloading to your new damage type

it appears you dont like RML's you should put this towards the thread to fix RML's. some of us think the 35 second reload is fine. especially considering when your done reloading your pretty much gonna insta kill 4-6 ships



I have yet to insta kill 4-6 ships with rapid lights. If you are talking a fleet vs fleet then over a short time, but certainly not solo.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#863 - 2014-05-19 02:00:18 UTC
Rapid light launchers have a very definable peak damage. Their actual dps when factoring in reload time is about half that of a similarly fit HAM boat and peak dps is only about 20% higher.

It comes down to whether you are desiring damage application or sustained peak dps. If you can spare the mids then sure go for HAMs and fit hard tackle

If you're a bit on the flimsier side then you can go for RLML and practice some deep-falloff kiting.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#864 - 2014-05-19 04:01:45 UTC
Anna Shole wrote:
So they will be adding mordus legion agents in low sec correct?

Doesn't sound like it..

Just sounds like they will be adding the Rats all over Lowsec to seed the BPC's
Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#865 - 2014-05-19 11:07:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dav Varan
Sniper Smith wrote:
Dav Varan wrote:
iirc the Mordus hate the gallente anyway , why would they be using Gal tech.

Because there were Galente.. They are Intaki, that defected during the Gal/Cal war.

Also, Sansha hate the Amarr with a passion, use Amarr tech. Bloodraiders hate everyone, use Amarr and Minmatar.. Guistras dislike Caldari, use Caldari tech.
Hell, The SOE and Amarr don't like eachother, and yet they use Amarr tech.



Wrong.

Sansha hate everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Bloodraiders love eating everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Guristas dislike the caldari somewhat and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.

The difference with mordus is they are not pirates.

They are Pro Caldari Mercenaries with very stong connection in the Caldari militay.
There not tech stealing pirates.

They would get there tech through there connections in the empires.
That means no Gal Tech cause Mordus are setup to kill evil planet stealing in the name of democracy Gal oppressors.

Maybe some Mini see Gals hand trying to take control of Pator/Matar in a Federal we tell you how to live kind of way and decide they wwant ot stop them.

Some nice RP short is all it takes to bridge the short gap and explain why Mordus is Cal/Mini.


And at the end of the day Reward for training equality between the races is 5,000,000 * more important than a little RP shenanigans.

Cal/Mini makes much more sence for game balance , so make it happen.


To Quote the RP from the Mordus Chronicle
RP wrote:

When the Caldari broke from the Gallente Federation many Intakis that sympathized with their cause were exiled from the Federation.
The most militant of those went over to the Caldari and asked to join them in their fight against the Federation

The Legion has always had close ties with the Caldari State and the two assist each other on many issues. At first the Legion accepted only citizens of the Caldari State, but today they accept members from any race, as long as they are not known enemies of the Caldari State. Still, the majority of the members are of Caldari origin and the leaders are all Caldari. The Legion does not train its members, so they are expected to be experienced fighters before they apply for membership in the Legion. Members of the Legion get access to high-tech Caldari military equipment, even prototype weapons to test out, and are guaranteed plenty of employment if they so wish. Non-Caldari that have served in the Legion for a long time are offered Caldari citizenship on their retirement.




The Legion was 100's year ago formed by Intaki who were Exiled by the Federation and became Caldari Citizens.
The Legion today is predominently a Caldari populated organisation with a smattering of all other races.
The Legion is a pro caldai Militia.

There is no political link here to the Gallente and no reason they would be expert in current Gal tech.
Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#866 - 2014-05-19 11:34:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dav Varan
-- Double post --
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#867 - 2014-05-19 12:43:10 UTC
The fact that BS can use effectively medium and small missile launchers like large missiles is a huge thing, i cant wait to RLML my Mordus BS just for the lulz!

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Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#868 - 2014-05-19 13:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Yun Kuai
Dav Varan wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
Dav Varan wrote:
iirc the Mordus hate the gallente anyway , why would they be using Gal tech.

Because there were Galente.. They are Intaki, that defected during the Gal/Cal war.

Also, Sansha hate the Amarr with a passion, use Amarr tech. Bloodraiders hate everyone, use Amarr and Minmatar.. Guistras dislike Caldari, use Caldari tech.
Hell, The SOE and Amarr don't like eachother, and yet they use Amarr tech.



Wrong.

Sansha hate everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Bloodraiders love eating everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Guristas dislike the caldari somewhat and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.

The difference with mordus is they are not pirates.

They are Pro Caldari Mercenaries with very stong connection in the Caldari militay.
There not tech stealing pirates.

They would get there tech through there connections in the empires.
That means no Gal Tech cause Mordus are setup to kill evil planet stealing in the name of democracy Gal oppressors.

Maybe some Mini see Gals hand trying to take control of Pator/Matar in a Federal we tell you how to live kind of way and decide they wwant ot stop them.

Some nice RP short is all it takes to bridge the short gap and explain why Mordus is Cal/Mini.


And at the end of the day Reward for training equality between the races is 5,000,000 * more important than a little RP shenanigans.

Cal/Mini makes much more sence for game balance , so make it happen.


To Quote the RP from the Mordus Chronicle
RP wrote:

When the Caldari broke from the Gallente Federation many Intakis that sympathized with their cause were exiled from the Federation.
The most militant of those went over to the Caldari and asked to join them in their fight against the Federation

The Legion has always had close ties with the Caldari State and the two assist each other on many issues. At first the Legion accepted only citizens of the Caldari State, but today they accept members from any race, as long as they are not known enemies of the Caldari State. Still, the majority of the members are of Caldari origin and the leaders are all Caldari. The Legion does not train its members, so they are expected to be experienced fighters before they apply for membership in the Legion. Members of the Legion get access to high-tech Caldari military equipment, even prototype weapons to test out, and are guaranteed plenty of employment if they so wish. Non-Caldari that have served in the Legion for a long time are offered Caldari citizenship on their retirement.




The Legion was 100's year ago formed by Intaki who were Exiled by the Federation and became Caldari Citizens.
The Legion today is predominently a Caldari populated organisation with a smattering of all other races.
The Legion is a pro caldai Militia.

There is no political link here to the Gallente and no reason they would be expert in current Gal tech.



To fight your enemy, you must first know your enemy...

That's all I'm going to say about that. And read the high-lighted and underlined parts if you're still confused on the matter.

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Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#869 - 2014-05-19 13:18:25 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Dav Varan wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
Dav Varan wrote:
iirc the Mordus hate the gallente anyway , why would they be using Gal tech.

Because there were Galente.. They are Intaki, that defected during the Gal/Cal war.

Also, Sansha hate the Amarr with a passion, use Amarr tech. Bloodraiders hate everyone, use Amarr and Minmatar.. Guistras dislike Caldari, use Caldari tech.
Hell, The SOE and Amarr don't like eachother, and yet they use Amarr tech.



Wrong.

Sansha hate everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Bloodraiders love eating everyone and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.
Guristas dislike the caldari somewhat and steal tech local to them as they are pirates.

The difference with mordus is they are not pirates.

They are Pro Caldari Mercenaries with very stong connection in the Caldari militay.
There not tech stealing pirates.

They would get there tech through there connections in the empires.
That means no Gal Tech cause Mordus are setup to kill evil planet stealing in the name of democracy Gal oppressors.

Maybe some Mini see Gals hand trying to take control of Pator/Matar in a Federal we tell you how to live kind of way and decide they wwant ot stop them.

Some nice RP short is all it takes to bridge the short gap and explain why Mordus is Cal/Mini.


And at the end of the day Reward for training equality between the races is 5,000,000 * more important than a little RP shenanigans.

Cal/Mini makes much more sence for game balance , so make it happen.


To Quote the RP from the Mordus Chronicle
RP wrote:

When the Caldari broke from the Gallente Federation many Intakis that sympathized with their cause were exiled from the Federation.
The most militant of those went over to the Caldari and asked to join them in their fight against the Federation

The Legion has always had close ties with the Caldari State and the two assist each other on many issues. At first the Legion accepted only citizens of the Caldari State, but today they accept members from any race, as long as they are not known enemies of the Caldari State. Still, the majority of the members are of Caldari origin and the leaders are all Caldari. The Legion does not train its members, so they are expected to be experienced fighters before they apply for membership in the Legion. Members of the Legion get access to high-tech Caldari military equipment, even prototype weapons to test out, and are guaranteed plenty of employment if they so wish. Non-Caldari that have served in the Legion for a long time are offered Caldari citizenship on their retirement.




The Legion was 100's year ago formed by Intaki who were Exiled by the Federation and became Caldari Citizens.
The Legion today is predominently a Caldari populated organisation with a smattering of all other races.
The Legion is a pro caldai Militia.

There is no political link here to the Gallente and no reason they would be expert in current Gal tech.



To fight your enemy, you must first know your enemy...

That's all I'm going to say about that. And read the high-lighted and underlined parts if you're still confused on the matter.



Theres no link to the Gal in anything you have highlighted
I think you are confusing yourself.

The definitive texts in that piece are

"the majority of the members are of Caldari origin and the leaders are all Caldari"
even if others are allowed to join as speicified in "but today they accept members from any race"

There is nothing here which forms an RP link for Galente it applies to all races.

The legion is as Caldari centric an organisation as you will find in eve outside of Capsuleer Corporations.


i.e.

There is zero justification in the RP for a Gal Bonus.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#870 - 2014-05-19 13:24:58 UTC
Meanwhile, israel is using some austrian firearms.

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Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#871 - 2014-05-19 13:39:30 UTC
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
30,000 years in the past, israel is using some austrian firearms.


fixed that for you.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#872 - 2014-05-19 13:58:10 UTC
My point is, if Nazi Germany had developed useable Laser Weapons during World War 2 anyone would use it, regardles of their History, Scrams and Points are "Gallente" Technologie so it makes sense Mordus get their stuff from former Gallenteans.

After the Caldari/Gallente War they start to Share technologie look at hybrids/drones for Caldari or missiles for Gallente, Gallente seems also more generous with sharing their stuff, which is also a hint.

About the "Balancing over Lore" Aspect i say we had enough unification in the Past, more differents between each Faction will bring more problems but would make the Game more exiciting again.

Like in reallife, not every military Force is equal, to compensate this disadvantages we work together but if they would be all equal we wouldnt work that much together.

Sry, for my Bad english hope i could share some thoughts.

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Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#873 - 2014-05-19 14:24:34 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Fozzie, that is sick.
Like really sick.

Like... it's a caracal, but 7 % faster, has like 50 % more powergrid, deals INSANE-PWNED dps and POINTS OUT TO 36 KM WITHOUT HEAT.

Yes, yes yes yes yes, god yes. I am climaxing.


Don't be insane.
Its going to be bling ship that demands bling mods.
with links you'll be pointing out to 75km ?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#874 - 2014-05-19 15:38:20 UTC
Wow, we're still pining for a Caldari-Minmatar racial setup...?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#875 - 2014-05-19 15:53:09 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Wow, we're still pining for a Caldari-Minmatar racial setup...?


This char is 10 years old and has lvl 5 for all sub cap ships of all races.

It makes no difference to me personally what races the devs choose to use for bonuses I will get 100% max effect no matter what.

So pining no.

Just voicing an opinion as to whats best for the game.


Unlike some skill poor scrubs who just have Gal trained I guess and have selfish interest to protect.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#876 - 2014-05-19 16:04:17 UTC
Dav Varan wrote:
Unlike some skill poor scrubs who just have Gal trained I guess and have selfish interest to protect.

I still have Gallente battleship V to train, so I'm in the same boat as most I suspect. But as the Caldari-Gallente racial requirement is basically set in stone, I'm just wondering what the point of continually bringing it up is...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#877 - 2014-05-19 16:14:16 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Dav Varan wrote:
Unlike some skill poor scrubs who just have Gal trained I guess and have selfish interest to protect.

I still have Gallente battleship V to train, so I'm in the same boat as most I suspect. But as the Caldari-Gallente racial requirement is basically set in stone, I'm just wondering what the point of continually bringing it up is...



You don't see the point of feedback in a feedback thread ?

Sorry I can't help you.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#878 - 2014-05-19 16:25:25 UTC
Dav Varan wrote:
You don't see the point of feedback in a feedback thread ?

There's feedback, then there's rehashing the same point endlessly... But here's a cookie.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#879 - 2014-05-19 19:01:18 UTC
The two reasons for it being Cal-Gal are that when they first showed up after defecting they brought a massive amount of hardware to reverse engineer, and two, ship practice is still Gallente; small crews, robots clean the hallways instead of interns, and all that jazz.

It's not like Minmatar like Caldari either.

Sansha is Am/Cal because Sansha is Caldari and the first slave crews had to came from somewhere they wouldn't be missed.
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#880 - 2014-05-19 20:48:59 UTC
In have not read the entire thread.

Will the battleship be the missile chuckers ticket into Incursions or are we still forced into turret weapons?

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