EVE General Discussion

Here's a few.

Replace mission, exploration, anomaly and belt rats with fewer harder rats with Incursion grade AI.

Make rats warp off if you don't point them, unless you can alpha them before they warp of course.

Make all NPC and player ewar behave the same.

Create more mission agents of all levels in low, and NPC nullsec.

Add more mission arcs several times a year. Make some of them hard enough that it demands cooperative play.

I'm not saying you shouldn't gather ideas from your users. I"m saying that it should be done in an organized way, not here.

Your users are not game designers nor business analysts, they might have a solution that is usually cosmetic, temporary, has no depth or no long term use. They don't spend the time to analyze the entire picture and implications.

A UX designer would know, based on the problems presented by the users, what questions to ask and how to interpret the answers and generate specifications. These go to the game / level designers that come up with solutions and poll the users.

You know, we know, CCP know what are the problems, predictability, the gap between Rats and Actual PvP gameplay. There were bots that could make you feel like a cannon fodder in FPS games, EvE should have something like that. If not for everybody, then at least an option for someone. Training dummies. If players are so afraid of human players then they should give them something to practice on and still feel like it was only a bot that popped them. GF. Then go and try it with some real players, it will be something like that only a real player, would not be a hard transition.

like when you warp to mission area NPC just instantly cloaks or warps out?
Or when you have attacked it it points you and then you get group of NPC warps in and blaps you?

And finally.... When you finally ready for team play and grab group of friends to mission you get hot dropped by capital sized NPCs....

Totally agree

"more challenging outside of highsec"
"just as crap as they were 9 years ago"

I don't see any problems to both of these "facts" being true at the time

PVE is criminally undeveloped as you mentioned, the progression system does not favour new players and thus getting into EVE now days is incredibly hard unless you want to be a drone (would be less of an impact if PVE was better), the community is just one massive troll conglomerate and new players are constantly exploited all over the EVE universe.

Essentially, the game just does not give new players any slack whatsoever which is why it has this issue and why it will always be the game for veterans.

No offence, but I'm quite surprised that the issue with getting new players is such a mystery to a lot of people. It was always painfully obvious for me...

I used my time machine to go back in time a couple of years and make CCP do a massive rework and buff to frigates and cruisers, so that new players would have massively improved early access to viable useful ships.

I went back that far to allow the new changes time to settle in and give the balance team data to make a second pass to fine tune these ships. Now T1 cruisers and frigates are awesome, and new players have literally never had it so easy or quick to get into ships they can have fun with.


Having a time machine* is awesome!


*Please use your time machine responsibly.

That's not true. T1 frigates are a bit fragile compared to other ship classes... absolutely. If flown properly they can take maximum advantage of their small sig radius and seriously wreck some ****. If you can't warp out or hit a frigate orbiting under your guns... what then? ECM? Phone a friend? Don't underestimate fast tackle either.

If you work it out properly you can get a Daredevil [I know, not T1] under 220 Autocannons... an extreme example but it illustrates my point that sig radius, high transversal, tackle etc can be a force multiplier in fleets. Solo work is fun too, you just gotta know your engagement profile.

The challenge?

I recently did the SOE arc (first arc I've done) in a Burst, purely for the lols. Just because you can fly every leet ship in the game doesn't mean you need to in order to have fun.

That's a pretty unconventional reason lol...

When I first started off in EVE and I had read my fair share of EVE uni guides and after having a bit of experience roaming around with a corp, two of my friends and I decided to try our hand at PVP at one of the novice complexes. I was in an Amarr frigate, my friends in a caldari frig and a Rifter. We learned how to fit our ships properly and how tackling works, we saw a guy from the enemy militia at the gate in an assault frigate (lol), so we attacked him, with my Rifter friend tackling him while we followed, webbing and scramming him. Mind you this fight was 3v1, but the assault frig destroyed us one at a time despite the fact he was 'dead in the water'. We hardly dented his shield...

Now I'm not saying that the result should have been any different, but it pretty much summarises what it is like to be a new player in EVE. I'm not saying that this gap between new players and vets is good or bad, but it is one of the reasons new players won't go near EVE.

Perhaps making the game more friendly for newbies would in fact ruin what the game stands for and cause all kinds of trouble, if that is the case everyone is just going to have to accept that the game will fade away, with vets slowly quitting and nobody new signing up. But to be honest, considering the premise of the game is to exploit and troll noobs, I'm surprised that experienced players aren't begging to get people to sign up.