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Testing the New Eden Store

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Japsert
Bob Ross Corporation
#21 - 2014-05-12 16:34:12 UTC
Am I able to do the purchases before 1700 because I will have something else to do in the time OP said
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#22 - 2014-05-12 16:34:49 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Are you guys working on a SP re-allocation/Name change?

Why should they. Straight

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Citizen of Solitude

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2014-05-12 16:37:10 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
moving forward, can we get singularity patch notes?


Patch notes on a test server are very difficult to get tbh. We can (and do) provide an overview of what features are new, but doing things like providing fix lists is just too time consuming at our end, sorry.

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2014-05-12 16:37:45 UTC
Japsert wrote:
Am I able to do the purchases before 1700 because I will have something else to do in the time OP said


For the purposes of helping us test, yes absolutely! For the purposes of getting the SP reward... no sorry Sad

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#25 - 2014-05-12 16:39:45 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Are you guys working on a SP re-allocation/Name change?

These are both things that the player base (and sometimes developers) have always said they don't want in EVE.

SP re-allocation is far too powerful a tool as it would allow players to change their entire characters skill-set making specialisation of a character meaningless. It also opens up abuse with the attribute focus where you could train skills at 2700SP/H then relate that SP into skills which you wouldn't have trained at those speeds (and bypassing the attribute resets).

As for character name changes it would ruin the areas of EVE where your name is something you need to look after, players have built infamy of fame from their names and the ability to erase those removes consequences of actions in some cases.

For EVE to remain as it is the NEX/NES store needs to stay as an area which only offers players a chance to turn RL money into ISK (vis PLEX or AUR) whist only effecting cosmetics of the game and not giving a player any kind of skill or power advantage.

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Noriko Mai
#26 - 2014-05-12 16:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Feedback/Suggestions:

  • Add "close" icon to the buy popup. It's not very obvious taht you can close it by clicking outside of the popup.
  • Move the "advertisement counter thing" on the addvertisement itself.
  • Make the preview icons smaller. They are gigantic.
  • There's no way to buy more than one item
  • It's not possible to show info on the items

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein

Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#27 - 2014-05-12 16:40:47 UTC
Giving free sp is bullshit. Some people may not be able to test. Some may not want to. I could see some Isk, AUR, or a free ship skin but NOT sp.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2014-05-12 16:41:38 UTC
Harrigan VonStudly wrote:
Giving free sp is bullshit. Some people may not be able to test. Some may not want to. I could see some Isk, AUR, or a free ship skin but NOT sp.


Calm thyself, it's free SP on Sisi, not TQ.

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#29 - 2014-05-12 16:42:16 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Feedback/Suggestions:


I love your feedback style! MSPaint FTW! \o/

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Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#30 - 2014-05-12 16:44:01 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Harrigan VonStudly wrote:
Giving free sp is bullshit. Some people may not be able to test. Some may not want to. I could see some Isk, AUR, or a free ship skin but NOT sp.


Calm thyself, it's free SP on Sisi, not TQ.


I read wrong. Back to licking windows I go Cool
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#31 - 2014-05-12 16:45:33 UTC
Titus Tallang wrote:

Complaint: Please don't put a "Redeem Items" button into the inventory. I intentionally have some items in my redeeming system for when I might need them. I don't want a disruptive button on my inventory screen for this.


I agree. No need to cluster the iventory interface with stuff you rarely use. It's already clustered more than enough.

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CCP Lebowski
C C P
C C P Alliance
#32 - 2014-05-12 16:46:13 UTC
Great feedback so far guys! Keep it up :)

CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0

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Noriko Mai
#33 - 2014-05-12 16:46:59 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Feedback/Suggestions:


I love your feedback style! MSPaint FTW! \o/


I use Gimp now! Big smile

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Darkblad
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-05-12 16:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkblad
I'm not that happy that this store has yet another layout completely different to other UIs in the client already (general gameplay, character creator, character selection screen, PI). Rather feels like a mobile app forced into the client. What?

Anyway, for this state of the store:

  • The detail view of a selected item (where you can buy it) should have a close "X" at the top right. It may be obvious that clicking outside of the preview panel closes it, but still ...
  • More sorting/filtering options? Sorting by how favorite an item is etc, filter by tags like hot/sale/popular
  • Is it intentional that the store width is fixed? Even the EVE Gate bar is responsive. Also, vertical scrolling should also work when the mouse is to the right/left of the items
  • Subcategories of the top level options (Ship Skin, Apparel, ...) may work better when they appear like a submenu starting below that parent group instead of being centered
  • The blank light grey area below top bar and first row of items is a known issue to be fixed, I guess? This issue appears to be limited to non english client settings, at least German
  • That offer image shows a tooltip labeled "offerID=21"/"offerID=24". placeholder I guess


And some issues:

  • Contents of that (misplaced?) Redeem Items bar at the bottom of inventory windows does'nt get updated while open: ALT-C, go to store, buy an item, close the store. This item does'nt appear in the list of the open inventory's redeem bar, you have to close that inventory window to update
  • When buying something and still having other items to redeem, the animation that drops the item bought into the (store's) redeem bar does'nt show the other items - but places the current purchase to their right

NPEISDRIP

Commissar Kate
NulzSec
#35 - 2014-05-12 16:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
A way to exit the store needs to be more apparent just the small X up in the top right corner.

Maybe just replace it with an "Exit Store" button.


Also add a conformation to buy the item to protect for unintentional miss clicks.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#36 - 2014-05-12 16:51:09 UTC
CCP Lebowski wrote:

Please note that the prices are by no means final and may be subject to change.


Different thing

PLEX will always be equal 3500 AUR ?

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Turelus
Utassi Security
#37 - 2014-05-12 16:53:53 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
I'm not that happy that this store has yet another layout completely different to other UIs in the client already (general gameplay, character creator, character selection screen, PI). Rather feels like a mobile app forced into the client. What?

I have to somewhat agree.
I really like the layout but it does feel like you're pulled out of EVE when you use it. It also takes you out of the games ability to talk to others meaning if you see something awesome in the store you want to talk about you need to close the store to speak about it. Is there any way it could be added in as a window or as ISIS was (although ISIS style of being forced behind everything else would be bad for a store).

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Noriko Mai
#38 - 2014-05-12 16:57:16 UTC
Purchase completed successfully
The item can be found in your redeeming queue.
The redeeming queue is available in the Character Selection screen or through the inventory system.

What is "the inventory system"?

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Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2014-05-12 16:58:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Lena Lazair
CCP Lebowski wrote:

  • The redeeming queue UI does not update when dragging items out to a character.


  • Not sure if this is what I'm running into or not. Bought an item from store button on the character select screen. Item shows up in my Redeem Items flyout at the bottom. When I try to drag it to a character, I get:

    "Token Not Found"
    "Redeem token not found."

    EDIT: The item did eventually show up on one of my characters so the drag-n-drop must have worked the first time and then the error was due to no UI refresh after that.
    Freelancer117
    So you want to be a Hero
    #40 - 2014-05-12 17:02:46 UTC
    CCP Lebowski wrote:

    In the future you will be able to use either AUR or PLEX to pay for various items and services through this store.


    May I remind CCPgames about this dev blog:

    http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/accord-reached-at-ccps-special-summit/

    "We have expressed our deep concern about potential grey areas that the introduction of virtual goods permits, and CCP has made a commitment to discuss any proposals that might fall into these grey areas in detail with CSM at the earliest possible stage."

    Hope that awareness has not dissipated over the years.

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