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What is the point of eve?

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#101 - 2014-05-13 04:47:55 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Bottom line, when the unpleasant aspects of the game outweigh the parts that give someone pleasure, that person should, and in most cases, will quit Eve, or any game for that matter.
So why haven't you?


For the same reason he hasn't gone on to play any of the dozens of (themepark) games that do things in a way he would actually seem to like: in those games he can't define himself as the plucky freedom fighter struggling against injustice and GoonGreed.

The irony is that if EVE ever became what he says he wants it to be, people like the Goons (at least some of them) would still play (like how some of them still play Star Trek Online even with it's heavy handed moderation and GMs) while he'd leave because it's "just not the game he fell in love with" lol.


Yup, you keep on believing what you do, irrespective of any facts.
I run up against people like you quite a bit in real life.
BTW, how old is the earth?

Bottom line, CCP refuses to release the data required to calculate the sub base.
No way that can be read as a good sign, by anyone rational.

Looks like your paradigm for what Eve should be like to create this Golden Age of a huge sub base is not working out quite as planned. But no worries, your friends on the CSM are making sure that CCP doubles down on this winning hand. I look forward to the next 12 months, when high sec PvE is molded in the image that you so desperately want.
Shivanthar
#102 - 2014-05-13 12:25:22 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
What is the point of eve?


Easy! Cool I learned it at my first agony course! Let me help you:

The point of eve is THIS
THIS is better.
And THIS is the best!

Have a good journey ^_^

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.
McRoll
Extraction and Exploration Ltd.
#103 - 2014-05-13 13:55:33 UTC
The point of Eve is being the best MMO in existence. To filter out the noobs, hyperactive children and dumb people, so you can enjoy a deep and complex game worth your time with decent people.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2014-05-13 14:52:43 UTC
AS long as we are throwing philosophical questions out there, what the sound of one hand fa... I mean, clapping?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#105 - 2014-05-13 14:55:21 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Yup, you keep on believing what you do, irrespective of any facts.
I run up against people like you quite a bit in real life.
BTW, how old is the earth?


EvE =/= Real life

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2014-05-13 17:11:22 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome


The point for you would be to join red vs blue... You dont like pve just like so many of us dont. And you try the fun part (in my opinion), in the least fun way (solo, again in my opinion). Find some people to fly with and go kick others in the nuts, thats way more fun!
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2014-05-13 17:29:27 UTC
The point of EVE is to be in one of the largest alliances, then run around LOL ganking other players while figuring out how to exploit rules... and even get your guys elected to CSM so you can LOL trick CCP into implementing new features that you can LOL exploit.
Haruka Itsumi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2014-05-13 17:45:10 UTC
The point of EVE?

Owning goons and their pets in all areas within a fashion tasted manner while trying to manage the resulting boner I get while doing so Twisted
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#109 - 2014-05-13 17:47:07 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
The point of EVE is to be in one of the largest alliances, then run around LOL ganking other players while figuring out how to exploit rules... and even get your guys elected to CSM so you can LOL trick CCP into implementing new features that you can LOL exploit.


lol bitter much, or spent too long listening to Dino's tinfoil speeches?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2014-05-13 18:02:14 UTC
The point of EVE is to find your twinky.

Find the carrot that drives you forward and pursue it.

For me, fun is making groups to do missions. Sure, the missions
are the best in design, but the enjoyment is found in the SHARED
experience for me. Taking on PVE with friends is my twinky.
Coordinating industry as well.

If EVE does not provide that incentive,
find a game that does.
I do not say that as someone attacking you
but in honesty. Do what you love, or
you will be hating your experience.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 
Tux Gallant
KOR Resources
#111 - 2014-05-13 18:02:43 UTC
I just wonder how its possible to obtain around 1 billion in assets and not know the core tenants of the game.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2014-05-13 18:07:56 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
The point of EVE is to be in one of the largest alliances, then run around LOL ganking other players while figuring out how to exploit rules... and even get your guys elected to CSM so you can LOL trick CCP into implementing new features that you can LOL exploit.


lol bitter much, or spent too long listening to Dino's tinfoil speeches?

more like a classic case of Grrrr Goons

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#113 - 2014-05-13 18:23:21 UTC
Spikes. Motherf****** spikes. Scary-ass looking spikes on spaceships.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Vedor Teo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2014-05-19 17:24:07 UTC
To dominate and kill!

Nah, just enjoy your game, k?
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2014-05-19 17:28:19 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Bottom line, CCP refuses to release the data required to calculate the sub base.
No way that can be read as a good sign, by anyone rational.

I'm not sure why you think a business should be 100% transparent.

Transparency in order to have a pseudo-analyst (we have plenty of them on GD) paint some kind of false picture about EVE would be irresponsible.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#116 - 2014-05-19 17:32:15 UTC
Glathull wrote:
Spikes. Motherf****** spikes. Scary-ass looking spikes on spaceships.
You forgot about the corpses of your enemies impaled upon those spikes.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#117 - 2014-05-19 17:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Yup, you keep on believing what you do, irrespective of any facts.
I run up against people like you quite a bit in real life.
BTW, how old is the earth?


At least 5000 years (5001 next Tuesday), maybe a bit more. I'll ask my pet Dinosaur.

Quote:

Bottom line, CCP refuses to release the data required to calculate the sub base.
No way that can be read as a good sign, by anyone rational.


According to a joint resolution of the U.S. Congress, a parliamentary Decree from Canada and a vote of the U.N. Security Council, you are not allowed to use the word 'Rational' because of your internet posting history. Of course Goons control all those bodies so feel free to disregard them.

Quote:

Looks like your paradigm for what Eve should be like to create this Golden Age of a huge sub base is not working out quite as planned. But no worries, your friends on the CSM are making sure that CCP doubles down on this winning hand. I look forward to the next 12 months, when high sec PvE is molded in the image that you so desperately want.


Bold the part that requires tinfoil to decipher. Whenever did you see me care about EVE's 'sub base'? Game companies should even be able to possess submersible warships any damn way, let alone Bases for them to dock at.]

What you 'look forward too' is the game somehow being hurt because a game company made decisions about THEIR PRODUCT that you don't like. The real truth (as you've admitted in the past) is, like all doomsday predictors, you'd love to see EVE perish as that would (for the 1st time in your life) prove a belief of yours was actually true lol.

When EVE doesn't die you will of course ignore that you were yet again wrong and simply revise the date of EVE's imminent demise....while at the same time continuing to pour life sustaining money into CCPs coffers....Thanks for your PLEX pruchase BTW.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2014-05-19 17:43:46 UTC
The "point" of EVE is to META. Specifically to out META the META, to a point where your META has reached the pinnacle of META play and has caused the cascading failure of the META, thereby crashing the META and bringing the game play back to the basic META that existed before the META took over. By playing the META before the META existed you are creating a new META to grow the META and introduce a new META style of play. This new early META, existing before the META introduces a new META style that encompasses the META of the game's META thought the player's META to the META of EVE. So, by using the META against the META to grow the META to crash the META by recreating the META, to attain the best META compared to the existing META, you can dominate the META by being META.


Hope that clears it up for you.

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2014-05-19 18:01:36 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:

What is the point of EVE?



Shoot eachother. Bring it.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#120 - 2014-05-19 22:41:58 UTC
the same as every other game- to waste time on instead of homework/girlfriend/working out/cleaning.. at least.. those are the things i ignore, they may differ from person to person. on the flip side, if i were born in 19th century england, i almost certainly would have been an opium addict, so the boredom alleviating powers of video games saved me from drug addiction at least, thats gotta be a good thing.