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What is the point of eve?

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-05-11 22:58:52 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:


Webvan wrote:
Betty Sue wrote:
Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

It's point? At it's core:
Unicorns, Elves, Orcs, Gnomes, eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

.. and in the great cycle of mining: eXtract, eXtort, eXplode, and eXit.

4X \o/

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#42 - 2014-05-11 23:05:10 UTC
It's a soap opera for men who think they are above Eastenders.
It's a IRC client with spaceship screensaver.
It's a spreadsheet for people "on the spectrum".
It's an economic simulator.
It's a CIA experiment.
It's a distraction from your awful real life.
It's trolls trolling trolls.
It's drama queens in submarines.
It's crack for nerds.
It's a forum with spaceship app.
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#43 - 2014-05-11 23:07:22 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:


Webvan wrote:
Betty Sue wrote:
Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

It's point? At it's core:
Unicorns, Elves, Orcs, Gnomes, eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

.. and in the great cycle of mining: eXtract, eXtort, eXplode, and eXit.

4X \o/

Sooo....we are the new X-games?

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#44 - 2014-05-11 23:16:38 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:


So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game?


Personally, I find it's just a game and therefore the point is to have fun.

Radical concept, I know... Roll


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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-05-11 23:18:35 UTC
I won EVE last week.

I am playing it again now from the start with a different character.
Doreen Kaundur
#46 - 2014-05-11 23:54:47 UTC
Suicide ganking without repercussions does make this game a bit pointless.

If you die in hi-sec while engaged in criminal activity, it should cost you some skill points as well. Now THAT is a deterrent.

Concord also needs to act like the security force they are. Right now they have all the power of a Boy Scout troop.

In short, this game has always favored the griefer.

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Solecist Project
#47 - 2014-05-12 00:19:49 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Suicide ganking without repercussions does make this game a bit pointless.

If you die in hi-sec while engaged in criminal activity, it should cost you some skill points as well. Now THAT is a deterrent.

Concord also needs to act like the security force they are. Right now they have all the power of a Boy Scout troop.

In short, this game has always favored the griefer.

You really don't understand EVE ONLINE at all. (:

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Baronvonchickenpants
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2014-05-12 00:25:26 UTC
there is no point to pIaying EVE, why were you expecting there to be one?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#49 - 2014-05-12 00:26:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Doreen Kaundur wrote:


If you die in hi-sec while engaged in criminal activity, it should cost you some skill points as well. Now THAT is a deterrent.


In short, this game has always favored the griefer.

Used to be that way in UO. A criminal would die and then need to recover lost skill points. So you wouldn't necessarily always be attacked by a criminal (a Red), not unless they knew/thought that they would win.

edit: But no perfectly balanced system has been devised yet, and imo that would most likely need to include permadeath.

I'm in it for the money

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Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-05-12 01:19:28 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome


The point of the game is to participate with other people in a PvP environment where virtual "danger" of one kind or another is ever-present, so that immersion in the game is deeper, so it feels like something's at stake with your actions.

Everyone feels the hurt in EVE, that's the whole point of it - even a "hardened" player is annoyed for a bit at losing something, it's just that they're more used to it, so it doesn't throw them psychologically as much as it does a newbie.

Unfortunately, it's not really a very solo-friendly game until you are very highly skilled and able to afford and can fly and use high level ships and gear. And to solo - even PvE solo (in the context of avoiding PvP if you can) - you have to have quite good twitch skills too.

The most fun to be had out of EVE is in playing with other people, in being part of a group, doing tasks together, building or destroying something together.

And in EVE, building and destroying are two sides of the same coin, each feeds the other, both are necessary, and most players do a bit of both, I think, although they may focus more on one than the other.

The best advice I can give to a solo player is to always have some plan, some goal, something to aim for - otherwise EVE is pretty boring. None of its systems - e.g. combat - are intrinsically much fun, they're only fun in the context of having a sense of progression. But EVE can give you that, and a sense of immersion, like no other game.

So if you're bored, leave. Don't worry, you'll come back to New Eden, trust me, you always will; if you've ever enjoyed it for any length of time, the game never gets its hooks out of you :)
rswfire
#51 - 2014-05-12 01:20:52 UTC  |  Edited by: rswfire
Quote:
What is the point to Eve?


What is the point to life?

Some questions cannot be answered, only experienced.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#52 - 2014-05-12 01:43:09 UTC
The point of eve depends in what you are asking.

If you are asking as a perspective from real life, the point of eve is enjoyment and or entrainment. Whatever that means to you, is what it is. For me personally, its trying to carve something in this game for myself. and making friends and enemies along the way. 10 years and i have not had a perm place thats mine, but i'm still working on it.

If you are asking as in a 'what the **** is the point of this game it sucks/boring/whatever' then the point of eve is essentially the same as irl. You make your own point. Eve is not a theme park. If i use WoW as an example, the point is to get high end gear and kill big things with your buddies, thats it. As thats the end game. you go to it and ride the rides, then you go home.

Eve is a 'what you make of it' game. a lot of people tend to forget or don;t ever grasp this concept. You find what you like, and want you want out of it, and you do that. its that simple.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#53 - 2014-05-12 02:02:13 UTC
As far as video games go, Eve doesn't have much point, and isn't very fun, in the classic sense. But I still play it instead of others.
Why? Because I've stopped thinking of it as a game, and started thinking of it as a simulation. It simulates power and politics, economics, and space battles. And that intrigues me.

You should go to null-sec.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#54 - 2014-05-12 02:23:34 UTC
Eve is a toolset for content creation.






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Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2014-05-12 02:48:06 UTC
The point of eve is for you to do something stupid and for me or someone like me to punish you for it. At least until you learn not to do stupid things. Its generally easier to learn not to do stupid things once you join a corp, one that is not a highsec corp with dreams of going to 0.0 while they mine away yelling stupid death threats at these new order guys..

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#56 - 2014-05-12 02:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Lets be real, the point of Eve is the forums. The actual game is in fact meaningless, and terrible.

Like any sandbox game or life in general, the point is simple, to exist. What you do during that existence is your choice, those choices gives your existence meaning. There isn't any definitive meaning or purpose outside of that.

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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#57 - 2014-05-12 04:19:49 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Betty Sue wrote:
What is the point of eve?



dude, philosophical questions about the meaning of EVE at this time of the day?
Do know about the meaning of life?
What comes first, if the chicken or the egg?
Why Wales is as such?
Or why german women should shave their legs but won't?
Or why a lot of crap tastes like chicken?

You do, then awesome, if not, shut up and harden the **** up.


So about those german girls which taste like chicken....
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-05-12 04:21:12 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:


Webvan wrote:
Betty Sue wrote:
Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

It's point? At it's core:
Unicorns, Elves, Orcs, Gnomes, eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

.. and in the great cycle of mining: eXtract, eXtort, eXplode, and eXit.

4X \o/

Sooo....we are the new X-games?

Lol


not that kind of X.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#59 - 2014-05-12 04:42:21 UTC
How the **** have you made it since 2005 without using safe spots? WOW.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Nova Serine
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2014-05-12 04:47:20 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
Whatever **** happens so I moved on



That's pretty much what it all boils down to. We are all immortal, so even though losing massive ISK and a ship that you've grown rather fond of certainly is a downer you can -and should- bounce back with a vengeance to recoup losses, right wrongs and reinforce your New Eden legacy. Don't despair, death is just a way of life out here. And we all bounce back. Fly safe, fly hard.

Smile

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