Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Or at least "yes, we have seen this".

The idea itself gets a +1 from me. It introduces something totally new to Eve.

any CCP responded yet?

I'm still looking forward to seeing a whole new ship category in EVE

This idea is so good it's made me actually log into the forum for the first time since it migrated.

On the front of the "what class?" discussion, I'd say Destroyer hulls make sense for the smaller vessel, which leads me to think Battlecruisers would be the logical base hull for a larger model. I do kinda get why some people have suggested the un-T2-ed Battleships for it, but it seems like an odd "upgrade" for what are supposed to be the premier line-ships.

The "anti-deployable" weapon I'd preffer to see as a "hack to unanchor" device - which would inherently only function on POS modules in the case of an offline POS, solving the "what about dreads/bombers" issue. If it is going to be a weapon, a limpet-mine approach would work much better than a launched warhead - that's what bombers are for.

As far as mines go, this would be great. But to avoid the issues that lead to the removal of mines in the past, I'd propose they were designed as follows:

-Make them drones.
-Allow them to carry several "flights".
-Set bandwith to X for a Light Mine and 5X for a Heavy Mine.
-Give a CES 5X Bandwith, and a HCES 25X Bandwith.
-When launched, deploy them in a "four corners and centre" spread if in a group, or just singly if not.
-Make resists/hp such that one can survive four, but not five, detonations by mines of the same size and energy type.
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-Replace the obviously useless "engage, assist, etc" drone controls with state controls - "Unarmed. Armed FOF. Armed Dumb."
-Unarmed mines would not explode or appear on overviews, brackets, dscan, etc.
-Armed mines would "fire" when an acceptable target comes into range of the mine (not cluster), moving towards them at a very high velocity and acceleration, detonating when within say 250/500m.
-"Armed FOF" would attack anything that constitutes a legal target (irrespective of system security), exclusive of members of the pilot's fleet.
-"Armed Dumb" would attack anything.

Either tag them only useable by CES and HCES or give them big, big bonuses to damage (and resists), explosion velocity etc to allow for nerfing their use by other ships dramatically.

Oh, and make Bombs detonate on destruction? Allows use of mines as a bomb-screen and use of bombs as mine-clearance.

Edit:
Possibly use a cap-requiring highslot module to enable the "share yurt" functionality? Deploy yurt, lock yurt, activate yurt-beam. Requires cap usage and remaining within arbitrary range of the yurt.



TL:DR - Bump

Anything that lets me "unanchor" dead sticks in WH space for profit or lols has my support.

General ideas that I liked in my skimming over the pages:

Offensive Function

• Destroyer sized hull with the same EHP levels as current dessies/dictors
• Launches a stationary charge of some kind (must be within 2500k of a ship or anchored structure)
• Requires a timer to launch (activating ship must be stationary) + timer to activate/detonate
• Charge can be destroyed during this period, by focused fire or the detonations of other charges; this inures no damage (like bombs)
• Small explosion radius, causes structure damage (amount is debatable)

Logistical Function

• Bonus to the Anchor/Unanchor/Activation timers on structures
• Bonus is scaled based on the number of deployabes already deployed (Think the new jump fatigue mechanic)
• Not a large, but decent cargo bay for deployable structures
• Maybe allow for a Warfare Link that benefits logi in some way? (might be a good way to ease into logi mechanic nerfs)

To the possible issue of what the offensive functionality has in relevance to caps:
If they are on the field and one of theses ships has time to motor over, sit stationary for a time and survive, then the said capital did not have the proper fleet support it required, and likewise for structures, there was no-one around to defend it.

ORE don't do combat ships, silly

+1

and I would even let them shoot capitals (from very short range), since any support fleet would murder then quickly anyway

T3? NOPE. just T2

Gaan, I really like the idea you had for deploying mines. The only suggestion I'd make is to only allow them in nullsec, much like bombs. Hisec minefields would be a hillarious disaster.

Also, I will +1 anything called "yurt-beam."

I would say disallow "dumb targeting" in Highsec, same as AOEs and DDs are disallowed. I've removed the idea of the teeny AOE because it's fairly pointless and would only cause Lowsec issues when people kite them into gates. Just make them work like missiles in the Explosion Velocity/Explosion Radius sense. Just need to set it to give them decent damage application. They'd be no more of a lag issue in Highsec than drones are since they are, basically, drones. The most abuse they could be is slapping them on Jita Undock and waiting for a wartarget to undock, but that's easily solved by giving them a short 'lock time'.



It's a beam for your yurt.

More seriously, a cap-draining highslot module that allows your fleet access to an owned yurt that you're targeting in line with the 'buffed anchorables' aspect. I'd rather it not be needed personally because I despise the underlying mechanic of the yurt, but while carriers can refit off eachother the yurt is a "lesser of two evils" kind of good. Ergo yurt beam.

I still have no idea what a yurt is...

oh well...

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