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CCP, release subscription number.

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Ahost Gceo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-05-10 21:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ahost Gceo
Cheng Musana wrote:
This reminds me somehow of a sinking ship (costa concordia) and his captain who left first before any of his passangers. What this basically means is that CCP keeps the decline of subs a secret so that the rest of the players dont run off from the sinking ship before CCP does. Just look what they done with dust, they knew that it was going down but didnt told their players until fanfest (to keep milking them). Another hint for this behaviour is for example the Dust514 login screen, it tells you how many players are online on TQ. ironically this number combines Dust+Eve players online. You surely could go and check how many of that are actual dust players (~3500). CCP calms their players by giving them the illusion that much more players are online.

TL;DR

-CCP milks dust514 then runs off without telling their players.
-CCP milks Eve and runs off (maybe) again without telling any 1 whats going on.

Considering the massive amount of effort that CCP has made in things such as FanFest, EVE Vegas, the unending expansions and updates...that some exceptionally unsupported tinfoil-hattery right there. CCP has made a massive investment in this player community and they aren't just going to "pull out" because we are their baby. If they pull the plug on EVE, they have no business.

CCP ignore me please, I make too much sense.
Billy Hix
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#82 - 2014-05-10 21:55:51 UTC
The numbers are down. I think its madness to try to claim otherwise.

For 10 years CCP has crowed at the top of their lungs that they are the only MMO that has constantly grown and to prove it they have always released figures. This year they are silent and hide the figures. Its clear, but is it a big deal?

Well not if they can still affords to develop the game. Once the money drops to a certain extent and the game hits maintenance mode then we all need to decide if we are happy with the game as it is or if we want to move on.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2014-05-10 21:59:04 UTC
Highsec pubbies if there was actual data showing that sub numbers are going up and every highsec nerf netted more growth would you all continue to howl that EVE is dieing? Would you all continue to preach that the highsec pubbie rapture isn't a myth?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#84 - 2014-05-10 22:16:48 UTC
I don't think its "hi-sec" subs that are at risk.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#85 - 2014-05-10 23:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
LHA Tarawa wrote:
I do not see subscriptions spelled out in the financials,


http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf?_ga=1.124024842.1230018860.1385400286

Page 17. 'Revenue from Subscriptions and In Game Sales' (presumably including plex and Aurum)

Which came to 70m or so for 2013. Up from the previous year, by 8m but more than half of it was in the first six months (see the six month financial to compare), suggesting that subs dropped off a bit in the second half. Royalties increased over the previous year (probably that increase in subs on Serenity)
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2014-05-10 23:13:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I don't think its "hi-sec" subs that are at risk.


I don't either but they are the loudest ones.

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#87 - 2014-05-10 23:15:25 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I don't think its "hi-sec" subs that are at risk.


Bluntly we don't have good information on who's what where. We're speculating.until the 2014 6 month comes out in June, based on limited info.
General Nusense
Doomheim
#88 - 2014-05-10 23:16:30 UTC
Sato Page wrote:
http://nerdsoliloquy.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/eve-online-may-have-experienced-its.html

We would love to know the subscription number of EvE after the CSM9 election. I could see no reason for CCP to withhold this information from its players. I'm sure CCP just over looked this "minor" detail while compiling this year's election report.

So yeah...... CCP, if you could just go ahead and tell us the number..... That would be great.... Thanks.

Edit1: tl;dr: Until CSM8 CCP releases the number players who participated in the election as well as the total number of subscription on TQ. This year, for the first time, CCP only released the participation number but not the total number of subscription.



I dont care about the sub numbers, many others feel the same way. Please reword your post. Thanks CCP keep up the good work.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#89 - 2014-05-10 23:17:46 UTC
General Nusense wrote:

I dont care about the sub numbers, many others feel the same way. Please reword your post. Thanks CCP keep up the good work.


They should. Lower subs mean less money for developing new stuff for everyone.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#90 - 2014-05-10 23:24:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
CCP will release those numbers if and when they want to release them. Until then any speculation on those numbers is nothing more then that: speculation.

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