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How are they finding me?

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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2014-05-14 15:26:33 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
This is probably one of those cases where another new player is cursed by the default UI settings. The one thing CCP could easily fix that would have more impact on new player experience than anything else.

First, your overview probably filled up with their drones and your d-scan littered with objects that are of no interest, there were only actually 2 players that engaged you. Im sure someone can link you to the best advice on how to un**** your overview and best settings for your activities.

Second, spacial awareness. If im hunting for targets, i enter a system and do a full d-scan. This is the window that CCP saw fit to hide away to the left of your hit point gauge in one of the fancy 'more mouse clicks than ever' menus. Once the d-scanner is open (it should never be closed, btw) and a full 14.3 AU 360° scan is done you will see anyone in space within that range. Be aware that planets, gates and players further than 14.3 AU will not appear on this scan. In larger systems its often good to open the map and see which celestial are most likely to be central and yield a more comprehensive scan.

Once a ship has been found, its a trivial matter of using the range and angle slider to narrow down which planet the target is at. Its important to note that a 5° scan will show you a result relative to your ship from the perspective of your pc monitors view point. It makes no difference what direction your ship is pointed. Once arriving at the planet its once again trivial to narrow down the d-scan to a particular moon, belt or station. Though with experience you tend to know beforehand which of those your target is likely to be at.

Your d-scan will show any ship that can see you. UNLESS, they did all the d-scanning with a cloaky ship, and got the cloaky ship close to yo for a warp in. This way, if the hostiles start out of d-scan range they will arrive on your scan only moments before they arrive next to you and say hi.

D-scan is pretty much the be all and end all of both finding and evading other players. Once you have organized your overview, i would recommend getting your head around that. The rest of eve becomes a lot easier at that point.


http://evedarklord.blogspot.com/2014/05/un-****-your-overview.html
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-05-14 15:31:12 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Appreciate all responses although still a little vague on just exactly how other pilots can scan me when I'm not scanning them. Also, even after using the star map to determine pod kills, ship kills, pilots in system, etc, and only entering a system when it looks a bit on the comatose side, with maybe a couple or three pilots known to be in system, and on first contact, with no kills and no contacts in whatever asteroid belt I'm operating in, all of a sudden I've got an overview full of contacts, all targeting little old me. Even if there are a hundred in Local Chat, how, exactly, do they know whats going on where I'm at?
Maybe it's just one of those things you learn after losing yet another half dozen ships.


Scanning down a ship with combat probes is fairly standard and not at all difficult with a bit of practice.

D-scan is everyone's friend... to include your enemies, remember that.

If your mission pocket doesn't have an Acceleration Gate you need to realize that you can be directly observed by someone in a cloaky ship.

Also, add war targets to watch list and keep your eyes on Local Chat ... if you see Local spike with Reds etc... dock asap.

You should read Feyd's Blog... it'll really give you some perspective and a few tools to make your survival more likely. o7

http://evedarklord.blogspot.com
Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#23 - 2014-05-14 17:42:39 UTC
Don't think it was mentioned (sorry if it was) but pull the Local window out of the little conversation stack and keep it visible on your screen at all times, it will tell you when someone(people) new jump into your system, and always assume their intent is to wreck you.

I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours.

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-05-14 23:12:46 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Appreciate all responses although still a little vague on just exactly how other pilots can scan me when I'm not scanning them. Also, even after using the star map to determine pod kills, ship kills, pilots in system, etc, and only entering a system when it looks a bit on the comatose side, with maybe a couple or three pilots known to be in system, and on first contact, with no kills and no contacts in whatever asteroid belt I'm operating in, all of a sudden I've got an overview full of contacts, all targeting little old me. Even if there are a hundred in Local Chat, how, exactly, do they know whats going on where I'm at?
Maybe it's just one of those things you learn after losing yet another half dozen ships.



A single pilot in low sec is pupulation enough to go hunt there.


You need to pay attention in local. WHnenever someoen you do not know enters local... you warpout or at least align to a station adn leave the mouse over the warp button.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#25 - 2014-05-25 21:36:39 UTC
I'm usually on the other side of the stick OP mentioned. Every system I hunt ratters in, I have made bookmarks close to each planet. Short range, low degree d-scans will find a belt ratter in seconds. Seeing a wreck pop up on ds-can indicates your progress.
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#26 - 2014-05-26 08:14:56 UTC
Solitary Pal wrote:
Don't think it was mentioned (sorry if it was) but pull the Local window out of the little conversation stack and keep it visible on your screen at all times, it will tell you when someone(people) new jump into your system, and always assume their intent is to wreck you.


With this, there's another useful "trick" - select any pilot on the list (doesn't matter who) and press "Ctrl+A". This selects all of the pilots in the list, so you can see when a new pilot shows up.

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"

Lord Fudo
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-05-27 18:26:47 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Seen this tactic a few times, usually from the short end of the stick. Rat hunting in lo-sec, contact, then after I'm fully involved with the rats some guy shows up in a Vexor, or Harpy or something and it ain't long until I'm a naked corpse floating in the midst of what used to be a really cool ship.
OK, I lost the fight, no problem there, but my question is how do they know there is a Rat Fight going on? I can't really see somebody sitting cloaked in an asteroid belt all evening long in a low traffic system, maybe watching TV with a cold beer (or in the UK, that warm stuff they drink), whilst waiting patiently for some idiot to come exploring this desolate little system.
Is there some sort of detector that one can deploy from the comfort of a station, with maybe an app to ring your cell phone should there come a Rat Fight? Or are these guys just spending their evenings watching their cloaked ships watch for something that might show up, or not?


Please come do pve in wormholes. You can make a lot of isk, and you're safer in wormholes. :-) we welcome you.
Catalytic morphisis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-05-28 10:55:45 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Seen this tactic a few times, usually from the short end of the stick. Rat hunting in lo-sec, contact, then after I'm fully involved with the rats some guy shows up in a Vexor, or Harpy or something and it ain't long until I'm a naked corpse floating in the midst of what used to be a really cool ship.
OK, I lost the fight, no problem there, but my question is how do they know there is a Rat Fight going on? I can't really see somebody sitting cloaked in an asteroid belt all evening long in a low traffic system, maybe watching TV with a cold beer (or in the UK, that warm stuff they drink), whilst waiting patiently for some idiot to come exploring this desolate little system.
Is there some sort of detector that one can deploy from the comfort of a station, with maybe an app to ring your cell phone should there come a Rat Fight? Or are these guys just spending their evenings watching their cloaked ships watch for something that might show up, or not?


Magic 8 Ball, No other explanation clearly...

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er

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