EVE General Discussion

Refunding CDO SPs to everybody that has SDO > CDO would be accpetable for all, I guess.

But CCP enjoys tears too, you know.

If you had read the thread before posting you would see this has nothing to do with it.

Thread keeps growing because no one is reading Tippia's posts.

Why, guys? Why??

I assume you mean that you have both CDO and SDO 5. In other words:

No you're not. You're only gaining SP, because the bonuses of the new skills are the same as your currently owned CDO 5. These "others" you speak of are totally irrelevant to your own situation.


People who trained the skill after reading the devblog would. And if CCP gives you your SP back (for reason we're discussing in this thread), you will as well.

Obviously Ive misread your post

It sounds like you just said only SP in CDO 5 affects drones.

Yes!!! Until June 3rd, you get to ROFLSTOMP all those silly noobs that have just CDO IV, with your OP'd +5% drone dmg bonus!!!

Unfortunately, after June 3rd all those noobs will get the equivalent of CDO V for OMGFREE and your pvp l33tness will vanish into thin air.

At least, that's what some people seem terrified about...

Aha! That's what I thought.

I really don't understand the butthurt in this thread, I have trained both to V on all my characters, in fact I only trained CDO V on my exploration alt a couple of weeks ago and didn't even know about the upcoming changes. I feel weird though, the changes don't make me get angry or make me cry. What's the problem?

Yes I am.
I have spent a week and a half getting the two skills up to V. For this, I'm getting abilities that will require two weeks of training. That's awfully nice of CCP, since they could have been very mean and just reimbursed the SP instead.

Sure. That also means that the core complaint with this change is totally irrelevant, since it is all about those others.

But as you pointed out, they're irrelevant. Also, that's exactly why you pay attention to what the devs say in relation to large change: so you don't jump ahead before committing to skills that will be affected by them Either way, they're getting exactly what they chose to train for — if it was worth it for them to start training that skill, then it was worth it, so there's nothing to complain about. If it wasn't worth it, why on earth did they train the skill?

The reason for the thread was to discuss the method of transitioning the skills. There are quite a few methods to do this, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, CCP has already changed their own opinion once already.

Either way I am quite happy, most my characters will be benefiting a lot from this current method they are using. And even though I read the blog I didn't set CDO for training as I had other stuff I wanted to train first and I knew there was no rush, so was quite lucky on that one really. Although I think for people who trained CDO in response to this blog, they are probably feeling a little annoyed about it.

Although I don't mind this new method personally, I think a more logical method would be to remove the CDO skill completely, and then just use the SDO skill in the transition.

We are all members of the eve community though, and people should be allowed their opinions on this without being flamed.

The most fair way to make sure everybody is equal is calculate the maximum possible bonus SP one can get from this changes.
Make the changes.
Calculate how many SP bonus that player got depending on what he had trained. Gives the difference between the 2 in free SP.

That way everyone, whether he has everything to V or the bare minimum to get the skills granted to him, will be receiving the same number of SP from CCP, either in skills directly or in free SP.

You can argue all you want that the skill was still useful because you used it for 1 week or 10 years or to "HTFU" and deal with it, that's still not convincing me why Bob should get 2mil SP while Joe gets 5mil (random numbers) free SP from the result of a changes.

If you give, give equally.