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Are CCP's "visions" ever actually accompanied by design documents?

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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#21 - 2014-05-09 16:09:28 UTC
You're in the 3rd stage of grief, bargaining.

Your goal should be to achieve the 5th stage of grief, acceptance. Otherwise known as 'How I learned to stop worrying and love the CCP.'
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#22 - 2014-05-09 16:10:22 UTC
mkint wrote:
While it appears CCP does have a clearer vision than they ever had, OP does have a point. Yes, CCP has a roadmap for when they'll get to "fix sov," but, well, what does CCP think "fix sov" actually means? Is CCP's conception of what's wrong with these systems on their road map so different from everyone else's to justify sticking around until any of that stuff actually happens? Because for anyone who stuck around just because they wanted wis/pi/dust/etc, that definitely wasn't justified. Both dust and wis literally had no published goals whatsoever to begin with, and for PI CCP just wasn't capable of turning it into something near as awesome as their hype.

Which is also why EVE players need to learn the important lessong: The CCP Presents panel at fanfest where they do their vision stuff is all marketing hype. They never talk about anything meaningful there, the whole point of it is to confuse people into keep paying subs for another year.



Yes and no. Its basicly a 'this is what we want to do... not sure if we can do it... but.." it gets players excited so they keep paying. But nothing said there is set in stone until you see it in patch notes. So yea, a lot of hype, but a roadmap, even if its vaper, is better then nothing.

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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#23 - 2014-05-09 16:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
A roadmap is not the same thing as a design document. A roadmap simply says "We will do this, and then after that we will move onto this other unrelated thing."

A design document says "This is a very specific thing that we will do, it will work like this and we will accomplish it by doing this this and this so that it works like this." It is effectively the creative blueprint to a working gameplay system. All it leaves out are the technical hurdles for the programmers to overcome.

With Valkyrie, they are trying to piece something together, but they even admitted they have been throwing out concepts left and right because they just aren't very fun. They didn't know what they were doing going into this. They are developing that entire game by simply playing things by ear.

So yea, they may have an idea of where they are going, and they may be showing off those ideas, but that isn't the same as a full design document. Of course I don't expect them to share that with the public, I'm simply saying that they clearly don't have one before they start on these projects. If they have design documents at all, then they are most likely written on-the-spot, probably on some sort of bar napkin during the middle of a hard night of drinking.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#24 - 2014-05-09 17:08:27 UTC
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