EVE General Discussion

Literally not even comparable. Only at the slightest. Instead of coming here to troll, just toss in your 2 cents, if you have them. Be productive or condusive to a conversation. I am trying to create a fit, discuss tactics, etc, relative to flying a hulk safely in empire.


Do you have any valuable, non trollish, and legitimate advice?

Not much, belive the minnie one gets used every now and then.. But you should be able to tweak in some em resist there if you figure out how many catas you can tank and how many you sant to tank against..

You can drop a low for a loss off some yield, slam in a damage controll and some active hardners. (with OH, it realy shines)

Even if the above fitting does provide 22k EHP, which I'm not sure it would, I would not recommend you use it for a couple of reasons:

1) For those who wish to gank you 22k of EHP will not save you. They will bring multiple catalysts or switch to Vexors .
2) The above fitting will make you more attractive to professional gankers as they will have scanned you and found expensive T2 rigs and faction modules. Even if the faction modules don't drop after your Hulk is destroyed the kill will be a very expensive loss to you hence a boon to their killboard percentages.

Due to the inherent resistances of mining vessels and how powerful overheated blasters can be Catalysts & Vexors are the usual craft used to do ganks. Tornados are used for freighter and Orca ganks due to high alpha. Anyone using other vessels will not know what they are doing.

As a general rule though you should not be relying on your EHP or purchase of mining permits to save our ship. I respect what The Code does with their mining permits to assist CCP with removing bot miners from New Eden. But the permit only protects you from enforcers of The Code.

Much more important are the following methods:

1) Don't clear belts regularly where other independent or smaller miners are working. It's bad karma and will not end well.
2) Regularly check your D-scan.
3) Collate intelligence on gankers from killboards and always keep your eyes peeled.
4) Never mine 'AFK'.
5) Location, location, location. Possibly the most important factor.
6) Base your ship fitting around a DC II module. Don't sacrifice all your yield but work out the best tank you can have with kinetic & thermal resistances as top priority. The new hull rigs coming out in June may be a good option.
7) Don't clear belts regularly where other independent or smaller miners are working. It's bad karma and will not end well.

Oops. I listed that twice. It just means if you see my ship and you have been 'AFK' mining and stripping out a system you may be in trouble.

Then fly your darned hulk, not getting ganked is not just a matter of tank. Back in the days I've flown a Hulk for about 2 years, cargo/yield fit, wasn't ganked. Most important is paying attention and not being in a crowded system. Reposition yourself often, specially after ppl visit your belt (that includes seemingly fellow miners, a mining vessel can be used for a warp in or scan of your ship just as well as any other ship). Keep an eye on local, mark any gankers you see as contacts with terrible standings.

If you want to be (semi)-afk and expect to live, then yes, the Hulk is not the ship for you.


Edit: 12K EHP? Think you should be able to do a lot better than that, specially with boosts from your Orca.

The replies telling you not to do it are more helpful than the joke 22k EHP fit (sorry, Wulfys Cleanup). Please educate yourself.

Edit: Quinn, you're looking sharp

Next time at least provide a link with some educational material in it.

The fit was a way of addressing the issue of a getting a tank while retaining max yield within the ship paramaters.
Now as i' ve already said, adding cpu implant allows you to do this cheap, and sacrificing the max yield allows you to pust it up and beyond 30k tank and adds overheat.

Adding useful implants on top of that pushes it further, and even swapping one of the less useful links on the orca for a shield resistance rig pushes it further.

Read between the lines before trolling.

yeah, make sure you fly it only inside a station....