EVE General Discussion

To be fair, all of that can be bypassed by anyone with a brain larger than a pea. It's those who don't mask their IP most likely to trip up on oog services, the API is just a segment of intel gathering. That's a helpful list of things panty sniffers might be looking for tho, thanks for sharing.

This is where you continue to be wrong.

There are corps out there that won't require you to log an API, nor even hop on TS for a quick interview.

I think what you meant to say was "Joining a half decent corp", in which case, yeah.

But as we've said plenty of times (and you have ignored each and every time) Start your own corp, see how far your ideals get you.

Your "look at people needing information that wouldn't catch me anyway oh man I am the best" humble-brag posting might seem smart to you, but actually undermines the point you were trying to make in the OP.

I remember that comic, If you do start a corp can I join? I just want to mine and learn to produce goods with this new and exciting industry stuff CCP has coming out.

Seeing as you don't like api checks and backround checks, getting to know recruits, interviews and the like, I think we will get along famously. I don't like these things either, and think people should take me in on just my word that I am a good noob who just wants to blow you awa.. emm I mean mine and buildings... yeah.

Saying that, people can make an argument that the API doesn't help. If a Awoxer wants in your corp to the point that they roll a new pilot for that reason alone then yeah your not going to catch them before its too late. But in the off chance that the awoxer is well, someone like me, who takes advantage of stupid CEOs to ransome them and their corps for isk, then yeah a simple api check would tell you everything you needed to know to avoid recruiting me.

Thankfully because most of eve doesn't read the forums, and most CEOs or recruiters don't do backround checks (API, Forums, Killboard checks), and because most people get bored or annoyed following me around warning my latest ceo that I'm an awoxer 10 min after I kill the expensive ship, or nuke the mining fleet, I wont have to worry about posting this. I will still have plenty of dumb targets who will never see me coming.

These checks would be extreme in any other game, to the point of crazy. But in eve, they are there and the norm for a reason, they don't work 100% of the time, but they do stop the thousands of people like me who abuse people like you in the name of our next paycheck.

I have few questions about background checks:

Do corps ask for full API on account or on a character?
I have no intentions of revealing my alt corp that funds my main characters.

What about EVE-mail, is it mandatory to include in API check? If I knew that people make it mandatory to show it during recruitment, I'd never use it to communicate with IRL friends.

How long do deleted messages stay in API?

FWIW when it comes to highsec corps recruiting, think of asking for a "Full API" as like asking for "papers please". Those people holding up their papers are usually waved straight through. People getting shifty, sweating, and asking "specifically which paper do you need to see at this time?" are usually either rejected or subjected to extra scrutiny.

It's obvious if you're hiding your source of income.

I made that big long post, I wish I had just said this. you just won the thread.

Nothing to hide here, and I can say without a doubt, that anyone who'm I have grown to know since joining Eve, will say I am very trustworthy.

Unlike most of society nowdays, I value my privacy more than anything. Im also not keen to giving my API to anyone who isnt a friend. Its just the principle of it. You wont find me on facebook, twitter, or whatever new nonsense that comes out.

Maybe if corps recruited people they know, and trust, rather than any warm body that will join their F1 blob fest, and help fill the CEO's wallet. There wouldnt be a need for such API nonsense. Im an open book when I know someone.

If the CEO cant trust me, then I cant trust him.

Dunno about missions or mining, never done any of that, in any sec.

Corps do seek players out, while a player wants guys to fly with, corps also want to grow, as you said. If more people stood up about their API, things would be different. Its all in the mentality, nothing is forcing these situations. Personally, I stand by my principles. I dont want anything, which forces me to compromise them.

If I really wanted to get into things, it could be said that if someone wants to work that way, then API's should be shared corp wide. There have been many cases of old corp members and stuff, running off with alliance dreads, and all kinds of other neat things. In a good display of faith, I should have my CEO's API, cause he shouldnt have anything to hide, as it is.

Trust and respect is earned, and it works both ways.

I totally get that there is a good reason to do this when you have supercaps and sov to protect, or high value, officer fit missioning and mining ships. But when it is the norm for small corps who live in lowsec with a grand total of half a dozen Caracels in their corp hanger it's pretty bloody ridiculous. There is certainly a time and place for this sort of security but even relatively laid back casual corps are heading that way, even when they have nothing to steal and no high value assets to lose.