Science & Industry

Just posting to see if anyone would be interested in lowsec PI manufacturing with the upcoming Player Owned Customs Offices. Im thinking of setting up some POCOs with 3-4% tax. It would only really be worthwile for people doing p2->p4 or p3->p4 manufacturing. Anyone (other than from ppl who like to bash structures)?

The low sec system I do most of my PI in is already claimed.

There will certainly be opportunities to be had. IMO the fear of ganking is dramatically over rated.

The principle question will remain whether as an investment they're worth the start up costs. I can see most of the better Lava's getting claimed reasonably quickly. Their are only a few Plasma's in low sec worth the effort. As for the rest I suspect there will be a long delay in anyone taking much interest, but overall I can see this feature creating a number of new dynamic interactions.

Where as low sec was often viewed as nothing more than a pirate haven, PCO's have the possibility to offer previously high sec based corps new and lucrative opportunities. It wil be interesting to see what the future holds.

I used to pull all my P1 out of low sec, but I've already moved my extraction into high sec. It's not the risk (there was almost none), it's that you can't rely on a planet having a customs office in low sec, and if there is a customs office the tax ates could change at any time.

The addition of POCOs will only be good for the griefers of eve. Go in, reinforce the POCO, demand money not to finish the POCO off. Lather, rinse, repeat. Oh and give us so much a month for protection (from us) hehe.

I see no way that POCOs will be profitable especially given the cost to install and the hassle factor. On the other hand if CCP is wishing to cause runaway inflation in the markets then it will probably work. Combine that with moving Ice to null sec and inflation will be assured and POS ownership will become nearly unviable.

POCOs = -1

Before a given planet needs a player owned POCO, the npc-corp -poco ( was it interbus ?) has to be destroyed.
I cant see this happening a lot in low sec and low populated W-space.
Just think of a W-system were the owner sustains a level of commitment that is sufficient low to allow others to do ninja PI.
That owner would not destroy the npc POCO, the ninja PI jokeys would not either.

I actually came back to Eve for Pi as it allow me to generate income (a few mill every couple of days) with just logging on for a few minutes a day and pulling all the materials together when I get a day off (every other week).
Obviously Player Owned is going to screw my losec operation. While I would be up for putting a structure into orbit, it would last 48 hours in my friendly losec.
If the local "Pirates" could be bother to put up a PI, they will undoubtedly either block me or put taxes up to silly money.
Now I'm happy to take the risk of losec running, and it's not my fault they haven't caught me yet :)
Fundament to this is the "natural" imbalance of losec. Recently I was ratting in a basic battleship, and a T3 cruiser showed up, followed 60 seconds later by another T3 cruiser. Now obviously I don't stand a chance; although a brace of jamming drones did save my backside and I did warp out - which was a first.

So my solution, PI Custom Stations are upgradable to PI Custom station fortresses - something that cost a bit, but is going to take more than half a dozen BS to take down.

Secondly, fair trade, Player run stations have a max tax rate and can't refuse business without loosing their 24 hour immunity.

Make that 2 people. Mining was just so mind numbingly boring I couldn't take it any more. Now (on another character) I have PI's setup in multiple null sec locations. Moving the goods around null sec is worth it just for the excitement. So now I'm making money AND having fun.