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Bounties (Bounty) on the "Innocent"

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Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#21 - 2014-05-07 17:09:05 UTC
Tried to create a WTB for specific Frozen Corpse... didn't work the way I wanted.

Get on Comms, or die typing.

Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-05-07 18:46:14 UTC
Bounties are the gift that keeps on giving, have some more OP.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-05-07 18:54:38 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
*looks at OP*

Hmm...

Needs some more bounty.

Bear

Forums need a button for this.


It seems we found the real problem:

There is no way to place pointless* bounties on angry carebears from the forums.


* your bounty simply just does not matter, in any amount.

Like most people, you fail to understand how reality and language work.

Every time I place a bounty on someone and he emotionally reacts to it,
the bounty matters.

Every time somebody with bounty gets killed,
the killer receives money and somebody gets a notification.

Substantially high amounts matter for those receiving it.

Many put out bounties to receive notifications about a loss of the bounteed,
so again it matters.

Bounties are a temporary (sometimes permanent) ISK sink,
so they matter here too.


Reality. People. Hard to understand, I know.

If you people will find a way to actually properly express your issues with bounty,
then others might actually care enough to push this pointless whining beyond irrelevance.


Oh wow. A smartass.

No, solstic--whatever you are this year...

Bounties dont matter. My apparent lack of understanding -- of reality -- (in a spaceship game) and language ( please show me where I missed something...) must mean you are correct, eh? Also show me the whine?

Can I attack someone because they have a bounty? No.

Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.

Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.

You need meds, I think.


Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-05-07 20:40:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project's Alt
-- Oh wow. A smartass.
Thanks for admitting that I am indeed smarter than you.

-- No, solstic--whatever you are this year...
Thanks for proving it.

-- Bounties dont matter.
Thanks for admitting that you don't really know what you are typing or saying
and also have no idea what I was actually writing in the last post.


-- of reality -- (in a spaceship game)
Yep. It's a reality.
Many call it "virtual reality", but it's a "reality" anyway.
Especially EVE ONLINE, because in EVE ONLINE it's all about people,
causality, interaction and stuff.

I don't expect you to understand this, of course. I'm the smart ass ... not you.


-- and language
See above. And my other post.


-- Can I attack someone because they have a bounty? No.
You can always attack anybody, anytime, anywhere and even if we're very, very strict,
it still doesn't make bounty meaningless.


-- Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
You can hunt them.
You can kill them.
You'll probably not make much out of it, though.
Does that change anything in regards to bounties? No.
See also: Above, regarding language.


-- Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Wow, you might actually be right with this one,
but this again doesn't make bounty meaningless.





So ... let's see.

Logic ... nope.
Semantics ... nope.
Understanding of the actual issue ... nope.


You also don't seem to understand what "meaningless" means.
Because, in the last post, I showed that they can and do have lots of meaning for lots of people.


As I have shown that lots of people can and do see lots of meaning in bounties,
I can safely conclude that the issue lies with you ... and not them.



I'm a smartass ...
... from the perspective of a clueless person.


That's one thing I can definitely agree on.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-05-07 21:28:18 UTC
Why are some of my favorite forum trolls attacking each other? Don't we have a perfectly good carebear to pick on? OP, I offer a bounty removal service if you supply the ships. Let me know if your interested.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-07 22:36:09 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:

I am so smart. Everyone who does not share my opinion is useless and knows nothing about eve or real life. This stems from differing opinions on the usefulness of broken game mechanics.


Thanks for the sperg wall. I have TL/DR'd for those not wanting to read through.

Go drink some "hot peppermint tea" and take your Valium.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Why are some of my favorite forum trolls attacking each other? Don't we have a perfectly good carebear to pick on? OP, I offer a bounty removal service if you supply the ships. Let me know if your interested.



I was sort of surprised myself. But a shot across the bow.... is a shot across the bow.....

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#27 - 2014-05-08 01:31:46 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.

Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.

You need meds, I think.





st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too.

But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-05-08 03:55:03 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.

Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.

You need meds, I think.





st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too.

But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however.


Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#29 - 2014-05-08 05:43:50 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.

Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.

You need meds, I think.





st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too.

But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however.


Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though.



I think the last person (whose name I don't know but they are #1 on the bounty hunter list) is an anti-pirate that runs locates on the higher bounty people, keeps intel on them, and then wardecs them if they operate in empire, catches them solo, pops them and smartbombs their pod before it can warp away using the techniques that James 315 developed when he used to wardec Orca pilots, kill them and smartbomb their pods in an Ishtar.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#30 - 2014-05-08 06:33:12 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.

Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.

You need meds, I think.





st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too.

But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however.


Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though.



I think the last person (whose name I don't know but they are #1 on the bounty hunter list) is an anti-pirate that runs locates on the higher bounty people, keeps intel on them, and then wardecs them if they operate in empire, catches them solo, pops them and smartbombs their pod before it can warp away using the techniques that James 315 developed when he used to wardec Orca pilots, kill them and smartbomb their pods in an Ishtar.




And for the price of putting someone that high into bounties where some special person MIGHT take a crack at them you could hire an entire team of mercs to salt the earth for them, for quite a few weeks.
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#31 - 2014-05-08 07:07:04 UTC
C'mon, everyone have heard of Santo Traficante, I hear he stays young feasting of the pod juices of the fallen.

Get on Comms, or die typing.

Tar'z
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-05-08 16:03:38 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Your post in no way or form educates her.

the great problem is, when people post things like this it's almost a guarantee that any form of education would be wasted effort.

Then why reply at all? Be honest, what's your motivation? I see you doing this in like a dozen threads a day...

We get it, Dave Stark. You know how to disagree with bad ideas while being a **** about it. Congrats on being no different than every other shitposter on these forums and contributing nothing 90% of the time you post.

Martyrna
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-05-08 17:27:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Martyrna
rippletink kuby wrote:
So the best anyone can do is not address any issue, just bully the person trying to point out an obvious flaw. Ive been ganked twice in as many hours did i scream and shout!, Because its the nature of the game that people can do what they want with no conscience. Now I have a bounty of 7 million on a miner character who has done nothing, so you ruin my gaming experience and target the corp i belong to, real mature. Thanks for your compassion.

Also I'm sorry for posting in the wrong place but i dont see you pointing this noob in the right direction!


edit: i swear i had comments written, i'm not sure why they didn't post.

anyhow.

no bullying going on here-merely people reacting to an inflammatory post about a perceived flaw, along with an unfeasable solution to aforementioned percieved flaw. Causality in action.

Also, no gaming experiences being ruined-merely being modified. if you want to Shoot rocks, you can of course continue, just be more aware when you do so. Perhaps examine your behaviors to determine why you're an attractive gank. are you mining in an extremely busy system? find somewhere that isn't and happily have a light show for hours. plenty of high-sec systems are deserted most of the time. use your map's "ships killed in last hour" tool to see where gankers might be active, and don't be there. don't afk mine, or you violate THE CODE.

further, you said it yourself: many characters benefit from a lack of attention. putting an inflammatory post on C+P=/=laying low.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#34 - 2014-05-09 08:29:00 UTC
Tar'z wrote:

Then why reply at all? Be honest, what's your motivation? I see you doing this in like a dozen threads a day...


You see him do this daily? in your whole two days of Eve life.

Oh wait, I guess you're just a newly rolled forum alt, with a lot to say!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#35 - 2014-05-09 11:28:16 UTC
Posting to confirm my innocence.

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Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-05-09 11:37:47 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Posting to confirm my innocence.

hahaha...



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Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#37 - 2014-05-09 23:35:55 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

I fly a Fleet Issue Stabber, but then again I only have a bit over a billion on my head
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-05-10 12:23:33 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.

I fly a Fleet Issue Stabber, but then again I only have a bit over a billion on my head


OK, well there is one...

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